39 Bodies found in Lorry in Essex

wolfie138 · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:33

so were they all from Vietnam? I thought they said they were Chinese bodies?

StriderX · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:38

wolfie138 said:
so were they all from Vietnam? I thought they said they were Chinese bodies?

It was a belief by the police, could still be true generally.

"the picture may change regarding identification, and we will continue to provide updates when appropriate under the direction of HM Coroner."

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:53

What idiot would put them in a sealed refrigerated trailer, anyone with a half a brain cell would realize they would either freeze to death or suffocate.

Literally the dumbest human traffickers.

Dis86 · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:54

Bounce said:
What idiot would put them in a sealed refrigerated trailer, anyone with a half a brain cell would realize they would either freeze to death or suffocate.

Literally the dumbest human traffickers.

You think they care? They'll have been paid in advance.

StriderX · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:56

Dis86 said:
You think they care? They'll have been paid in advance.

And plenty more souls they can abuse, they're basically worthless commodities, if they die, it's less hassle to deal with, if they survive, they can keep trying to rinse money out of them.

RxR · 25 Oct 2019 at 14:58

I just read on the abc site that up to 40,000 people are smuggled into Britain a year. That sound quite high.

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:08

The DM says one of the family members of one of the victims said she'd paid £30,000!.

You can get a first class flight from China to the UK for less than that.

VincentHanna · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:09

Not if you don't have paperwork.

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:17

VincentHanna said:
Not if you don't have paperwork.

Forge documents?

If I had choice between

A) Being smuggled in by a refrigerator trailer
or
B) Forging documents and flying on Jet.

I'd choose B, wouldn't you?

jsmoke · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:25

Bounce said:
Forge documents?

If I had choice between

A) being smuggled in by a refrigerator trailer
or
B) Forging documents and flying on Jet.

I'd choose B, wouldn't you?

Where you get forged docs?

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:26

jsmoke said:
Where you get forged docs?

They have come from Asia you can practically get anything forged over there.

Jean-F · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:27

Efour said:
Drivers responsibility I'm sure. Either way he is screwed.

I’ve only read 20 posts, so if this explained in later pages, I apologise, but, (and here I’m only using my knowledge of procedures when I was trucking trailers and containers to and from Europe), if the trailer, complete with container, was pulled off the ferry by a dock tug unit, then the driver hitched the trailer to his tractor unit, he may have been completely unaware of anyone being inside the container.

RxR · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:31

Given they are now suspected (by the Belgians) to have maybe been dead for 12 hours, you'd think the driver would be in the clear shortly.

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:32

RxR said:
Given they are now suspected (by the Belgians) to have maybe been dead for 12 hours, you'd think the driver would be in the clear shortly.

Yes but they probably want to know if hes been in on it all along or just wrong time wrong place.

RxR · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:36

Bounce said:
Yes but they probably want to know if hes been in on it all along or just wrong time wrong place.

Fair enough. There's also a possibility he / his firm might have been sucker-punched into taking the rap for a known-dead cargo before it left Belgium.

Bounce · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:37

RxR said:
Fair enough. There's also a possibility he / his firm might have been sucker-punched into taking the rap for a known-dead cargo before it left Belgium.

Yea i guess so they may have been stitched up like a kipper

Scania · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:42

Jean-F said:
I’ve only read 20 posts, so if this explained in later pages, I apologise, but, (and here I’m only using my knowledge of procedures when I was trucking trailers and containers to and from Europe), if the trailer, complete with container, was pulled off the ferry by a dock tug unit, then the driver hitched the trailer to his tractor unit, he may have been completely unaware of anyone being inside the container.

This is my take as well, what puzzles me is on the face of it the police are yet to establish the drivers innocence in this which you’d think they’d be quick to establish were he just unfortunate enough to be sent to pick up that particular trailer....

Jean-F · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:44

jsmoke said:
Not really he obviously knew what he was doing, hope he gets 30+ years.

Dis86 said:
Yes, they do.

Agreed, from experience.

Jean-F · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:52

Jean-F said:
Agreed, from experience.

Can I just point out that I was agreeing that some, not all, haulage firms employ night men to hook units up to trailers, so that the day driver can just come in, get in the truck, and go, I was NOT agreeing with the hope that the driver gets 30 years.

metachi · 25 Oct 2019 at 15:56

Vietnamese woman feared to be among victims

https://news.sky.com/story/essex-lo...CGy1FTi9cu8zAgf-1HsXnNr-OSKtV3C3lr2q2iCQxOCYE

Vietnamese or Chinese, all the same thing to a British white person.