39 Bodies found in Lorry in Essex

Sounds like it could well be IRA (or dissident versions of it) and/or Irish Republican gangsters - I think @Uther was just jumping on board with his "LOL" after a couple of other posters posted something that would seemingly contradict that.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how the area he's from means it's definitely IRA related. As you claim.

Not that I think it matters. Europe is riddled with people smuggling and trafficking. All sorts involved in it.
 
I'm still waiting for you to explain how the area he's from means it's definitely IRA related. As you claim.

The guy has a tricolour on his Instagram and Irish hashtags. No Protestant from Portadown is going to have a tricolour anywhere near him, nor call himself Irish. I should know, I went to school there and grew up in the area. It is one of the most bitterly divided parts of the whole of Northern Ireland and is known as the murder triangle (Portadown/Lurgan and Craigavon) because of it.
 
If this is the case I really don't know how he would be guilty. The question to me is - why did he open the truck to report the bodies if he didn't require to open it and have the police found a payment paper trail involving him in any way.

Pure speculation. But perhaps he opened it to release them. Realised it was a horrific disaster and just reacted. Who knows. Maybe he has a feeling something was wrong and stopped to check.

How do we know.
 
The question to me is - why did he open the truck to report the bodies if he didn't require to open it

Maybe, as previously mentioned, the industrial estate was where he was supposed to let them out. He opens trailer and finds them dead, what can you do? You can't do a runner easily, so he went for the call the authorities and deny all knowledge route.

have the police found a payment paper trail involving him in any way.

Since they have charged him with trafficking and money laundering I'd say yes, they have a paper trail
 
The guy has a tricolour on his Instagram and Irish hashtags. No Protestant from Portadown is going to have a tricolour anywhere near him, nor call himself Irish. I should know, I went to school there and grew up in the area. It is one of the most bitterly divided parts of the whole of Northern Ireland and is known as the murder triangle (Portadown/Lurgan and Craigavon) because of it.

Is Laurelvale FC a protestant or catholic football team?
 
The guy has a tricolour on his Instagram and Irish hashtags. No Protestant from Portadown is going to have a tricolour anywhere near him, nor call himself Irish. I should know, I went to school there and grew up in the area. It is one of the most bitterly divided parts of the whole of Northern Ireland and is known as the murder triangle (Portadown/Lurgan and Craigavon) because of it.

According to the other poster it's all bandit territory all IRA.
 
The guy has a tricolour on his Instagram and Irish hashtags. No Protestant from Portadown is going to have a tricolour anywhere near him, nor call himself Irish. I should know, I went to school there and grew up in the area. It is one of the most bitterly divided parts of the whole of Northern Ireland and is known as the murder triangle (Portadown/Lurgan and Craigavon) because of it.

He did go to Portadown college.
 
Maybe, as previously mentioned, the industrial estate was where he was supposed to let them out. He opens trailer and finds them dead, what can you do? You can't do a runner easily, so he went for the call the authorities and deny all knowledge route.



Since they have charged him with trafficking and money laundering I'd say yes, they have a paper trail

I agree with this.
 
Its likely to be very helpful to the police to have the FB, Instagram accounts, not so helpful for a criminal. :p
 
The guy has a tricolour on his Instagram and Irish hashtags. No Protestant from Portadown is going to have a tricolour anywhere near him, nor call himself Irish. I should know, I went to school there and grew up in the area. It is one of the most bitterly divided parts of the whole of Northern Ireland and is known as the murder triangle (Portadown/Lurgan and Craigavon) because of it.

He would be from the protestant community, a quick scroll down his facebook and there is remembrance day posts and red white and blue bumper cars with Ulster Banners. That a side, he looks the right Jack the lad and was likely the fall guy off the gang called in to pick up a dead load as they knew they were already dead.
 
What else should they do?

"Sorry, we need to wait until all information released is proven beyond reasonable doubt"

Wouldn't be much news, they have to release stuff as they are told it. Sometimes that information will be accurate, other times it won't.

The Police said not to speculate on the ethnic origins of the people. Yet the media broke their word just for clicks and views. That's how low our media as become.

Essex lorry deaths: 'We cannot speculate about the nationality of the deceased,' say police – video
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...speculate-about-nationality-of-deceased-video

It's kind of disgraceful that the media is even showing the victims faces when their families haven't at least formally identified the bodies, and they probably haven't even been asked if they want their loved one to appear in the media.

It would be like if your mother, father, son, daughter, happened to die in a major incident, and the media going straight to their media profile page to steal photos so they can print them in their story. Disgraceful. The media hasn't learned anything.
 
He would be from the protestant community, a quick scroll down his facebook and there is remembrance day posts and red white and blue bumper cars with Ulster Banners. That a side, he looks the right Jack the lad and was likely the fall guy off the gang called in to pick up a dead load as they knew they were already dead.

This makes the most sense.
 
With utmost respect, being charged doesn’t mean that someone’s guilty, or will found to be guilty.

And being charged is substantially more than simply being arrested or interviewed.

I've seen plenty of people that I have been 100% sure of being guilty walk free of court because their defence was superb on the day or the jury wanted levels of evidence that simply doesn't exist, but that's the legal system we have and I wouldn't change it.

Remember the defence isn't there to prove he's innocent, they only have to introduce 1% of doubt.
 
Will be interesting to heard the evidence on the trail, I figure he is the impulsive sort from scrolling through his facebook. They are the sort that just can't keep things in and will be spilling out everything, they will have set on the table of the interview photos of the pile of dead bodies. The question is, was he just the fall guy picking up a handy number or was he more integrated in the smuggling? I figure they have him hook line and sinker with the evidence.
 
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