As probably the only person posting in this thread who can claim to know anything about road haulage, surely you can make up some sort of implausible conspiracy theory to keep it off-topic?![]()
Thought about this comment earlier whilst browsing some trucking forums so I’ve picked a few insights for you.
dieseldog999 said:hopefully this cant be misconstrued as racist as it dont matter what race or country the illegals come from.
if they were videoed scurrying out of the back of a trailer in england,then the outcry would deem them as ilegals,migrants,or the more favoured by the media ,clandestines?
the first guilty ones are the ones who decided happily to request to be illegally trafficked into the uk ( a criminal act), nobody forced then when its been shown that they paid £20 and £30k a pop to get lifted.
the next lot of criminals being the friends and family who happily paid money to known criminals for them to be smuggled illegaly obviously knowing they were paying criminals,( another criminal act).
the next lot are the criminals who traffic any commodities for cash.
after that comes the lot from the uk/n.i or eire that organise and assist ( no doubt the balaclava brigade on one side or the other) with the fall guys being the drivers at the bottom of the chain of criminals.
every single one of the aforementioned are criminals irrespective of for what reason or situation makes them do what they do.
if they are all so poverty stricken,then where did the 20 and 30k cash come from to pay for their journeys,and why dont the ones that got it refunded get arrested to explain where the massive amounts of cash came from?
this lot happened to die in the trailer,not the first time its happened,and it wont be the last.
since woody/mo got caught at essex,theres been another nine dragged out after coming out of dover this time alive, so its never going to stop until france looks after its own borders,or until the uk stops being the land of honey to illegals.
they are now opening a revamped prison ship in ghent to attempt to deal with the latest swarming influx of illegals and as you can imagine its highly likely they want to stop in belgium so once again the uk is the target from there.
the ones that are here have to pay never ending payents to repay the criminals that they arranged transport on penalty of harm coming to their familys abroad so any money they recieve from the uk goes out of the country without the uk economy seeing any of it.
the fact that this lot all died instantly,then the media makes out it was 39 equivelants to mother theresa where in reality they were no better or worse than the axle huggers you see running away every working day around england ferry routes and absolutely every day in their hundreds swarming around french ports.
the more france lets through,then the less france needs to care with the bonus of shafting the uk.
im assuming that this is an accurate description without the race card being played as nobody seems to pick up on the facts of this.
porsche said:I see they have identified the person who hired the trailer, another Northern Irish person. The other man in his 20s arrested in Dublin yesterday is also from Northern Ireland, it’s been said he drive the trailer to the port in Zeebrugge, his arrest is in relation to another outstanding issue rather than this case. The whole thing seems to be centred around Northern Ireland.
What i find strange / amateur about the whole thing;
- if you are people smuggling would you do it in a Bulgarian registered truck? That has to draw more attention to the authorities. You prob save a few grand a year doing so but pittance versus the smuggling business.
- Especially in a blinged up one - isn’t that bull bar illegal, crying to get pulled over.
- a fridge seems like a lethal choice to use. Yes it can help avoid detection versus a curtain but surely if it’s an organised business they would have cop on to realise the risks.
- why stop where he stopped, on a bend near a junction. opening a door to let 39 people out (who it’s reported had a bag each) is going to take a while.
- hiring a trailer from a company which advertises that they have satellite tracking in all their trailers is foolish.
- combining a blinged Bulgarian reg’d tractor to a trailer which clearly shows that it has been hired from a southern Irish company (sticker on rear) again increases the chances of police / vosa / customs pulling over.
I reckon a few vans were there to meet the truck who then fled, this is a missing link. No way were the smugglers going to let these people (assume little or no English, never been to uk before) out at an industrial estate In the middle of night and drive off. The smugglers own these people and rely on enslaving them until debts repaid.
Santa said:Harry Monk said:remy said:Was the driver charged with manslaughter because he was the last person to touch the trailer ? It's not said he was involved with them being loaded when and where that was, they are more guilty of the charge. Sad to say they were possibly already dead when he picked up the trailer.
I would speculate that it was because the whole thing was an organised people-smuggling operation and his role in that operation was to collect the trailer and rendezvous with other people involved in the operation in order that the stowaways be taken onward, by minibus for example, and because he was aware of the fact that the trailer would be carrying stowaways he was charged with manslaughter under the general rule of joint responsibility.
I agree.
I also note that he has been charged with money laundering, among other things. This means that the police have found evidence of him being involved in moving large sums of money around without due care and attention.