4080 & 4090 Coil Whine Thread

[Wolverine2349]

I'm RMA'ing mine. I can put up with a little of it, but what I had was madness. (fixed my video/noise link as it was broken)

From what I read, the Giga 4090 OC is the quietest, but louder fans. I might try the SuprimX. However thats hit an hiss but better fans, and the Strix 4090 is better fans but again hit or miss. The whine lottery I suppose, keep going till I get one thats acceptable.

I had a Giga that seemed a little better but still too much whine and the Asus mobo with Ryzejn 7700X whined. And the thermals on it were very bad and even with custom fan curve, fan ramped up and down like crazy so it went back along with mobo.

Going back to intel and need to find the good gem Suprim X.

 

[LtMatt]

I'm RMA'ing mine. I can put up with a little of it, but what I had was madness. (fixed my video/noise link as it was broken)

From what I read, the Giga 4090 OC is the quietest, but louder fans. I might try the SuprimX. However thats hit an hiss but better fans, and the Strix 4090 is better fans but again hit or miss. The whine lottery I suppose, keep going till I get one thats acceptable.

LambChop, well I’ll be damned! welcome back, not seen your name round these parts for many years. Are you still feral about Nvidia or have you mellowed over the years?

My Suprim X has coil whine, so expect it if you get one. All 4090s have coil whine from the 8pr 9 I’ve tried, it’s just finding one that has the least whine possible.

 

[Jay85]

From all the reviews and shiz i've read so far it does seem like the Gigabyte card is the quietest out of all of them! I still kinda wanna risk it on a FE though...

 

[LambChop]

From all the reviews and shiz i've read so far it does seem like the Gigabyte card is the quietest out of all of them! I still kinda wanna risk it on a FE though...

If you want FE. You could get pny only difference is the badge. Or zotac etc if you are not into overclocking. Not that you need to oc a 4090 just now anyway

 

[Wolverine2349]

From all the reviews and shiz i've read so far it does seem like the Gigabyte card is the quietest out of all of them! I still kinda wanna risk it on a FE though...

Yeah they still have too much buzz, but there is a better chance for a good one. Thoughg thermals on it and even custom fan curve I have seen are a struggle.

 

[LambChop]

Ok so what I read might have been nonsense, no diff going from the corsair 12vhpwr to the nvidia cable. RMA and will be collected tomorrow

 

[Wolverine2349]

My local Micro Center just got 9 MSI Suprim X 4090 cards in stock. And they have a good return policy.

I may try buying and returning until I get one of the quiet ones.

1 out of how many do you think are the good quiet samples.

Hostile_18 - You got one on the first try of the new batch right?

And Noxia it took you a 3rd MSI Suprim X of the new batch of them?

And Frenzy you had 2 and they were both coil whiners and waiting for a 3rd right?

 

[Alt0153]

My local Micro Center just got 9 MSI Suprim X 4090 cards in stock. And they have a good return policy.

I may try buying and returning until I get one of the quiet ones.

1 out of how many do you think are the good quiet samples.

Hostile_18 - You got one on the first try of the new batch right?

And Noxia it took you a 3rd MSI Suprim X of the new batch of them?

And Frenzy you had 2 and they were both coil whiners and waiting for a 3rd right?

just buy all 9

 

[LtMatt]

just buy all 9

I second this motion, as they will all have some coil whine.

 

[Wolverine2349]

I second this motion, as they will all have some coil whine.

Yes all have some, but the goal and key is that it is inaudible in a case with foamed side panels that has 4 140mm quiet 900RPM fans.

Of course all the have some coil whine, but key is it should only be heard with ear next to the card.

My Gigabye Gaming OC 3090 Ti was like that. No chainsaw/beehive/electrical buzzing type noise heard with speakers off in quiet room. It was actually inaudible in closed case. Well maybe barely slight audible changer of dead air pitch/mild ear ring at worst only if you turned your head a certain way in certain spot.

I expect a 4090 with the same quiet type of coil whine under all loads like the Giga 3090 Ti had. SO far every 4090 I have tried has been at least modestly louder or a lot louder and worst yet a chainsaw type noise even if far lower volume level than chainsaw itself. And the 3090 Ti have similar power draw to 4090s and even 3090 Ti PCBs were like a beta test for 4000 series. SO why the heck can't 4090s be as quiet.

 

[LtMatt]

Yes all have some, but the goal and key is that it is inaudible in a case with foamed side panels that has 4 140mm quiet 900RPM fans.

Of course all the have some coil whine, but key is it should only be heard with ear next to the card.

My Gigabye Gaming OC 3090 Ti was like that. No chainsaw/beehive/electrical buzzing type noise heard with speakers off in quiet room. It was actually inaudible in closed case. Well maybe barely slight audible changer of dead air pitch/mild ear ring at worst only if you turned your head a certain way in certain spot.

I expect a 4090 with the same quiet type of coil whine under all loads like the Giga 3090 Ti had. SO far every 4090 I have tried has been at least modestly louder or a lot louder and worst yet a chainsaw type noise even if far lower volume level than chainsaw itself. And the 3090 Ti have similar power draw to 4090s and even 3090 Ti PCBs were like a beta test for 4000 series. SO why the heck can't 4090s be as quiet.

Buying 9 in one go will definitely improve your chances, let us know how it goes.

 

[Wolverine2349]

Buying 9 in one go will definitely improve your chances, let us know how it goes.

Yeah then return the ones that fail. Though will have to walk back in for each one as they limit to one per custom. Then would have to return all others and keep the one that has faint at worst coil whine/buzz. Though these things cost $1700 and I have to be careful not to get flagged for too many returns as I think the limit is $10K or maybe its $12K. Well I could do 5 of them.

 

[Alt0153]

next gen cards will be here before you all stop ******* about and just deal with it or dont upgrade

 

[LambChop]

so following on from my RMA, it was shown as 'No fault found' yet from my video you can clearly hear its dreadful. They still refunded, however it got me thinking.... I wonder if this is why there is so many issues with coil whine, that instead of it ever going back to manufacturer, they re-package it and re-sell it back on so these cards stay in circulation until someone accepts it.

 

[Wolverine2349]

so following on from my RMA, it was shown as 'No fault found' yet from my video you can clearly hear its dreadful. They still refunded, however it got me thinking.... I wonder if this is why there is so many issues with coil whine, that instead of it ever going back to manufacturer, they re-package it and re-sell it back on so these cards stay in circulation until someone accepts it.

Yeah I wonder that too. Absolutely shameful and embarrassing these companies get away with this crap!! People need to stop buying it and accepting this as normal.

The companies need to bin cards for no whine under most conditions that gives customers an option who want silent PCs and it is QA tested that as long as you have a high quality and sufficient Power Supply and a good reliable motherboard and components, the card will be quiet with almost 0 audible electrical buzz/whine noise and charge a premim for it. Instead they just leave us all to a lottery.

Well guess what. Some people like quiet or even silent PCs, so sell separate ones and leave the whiney cards for those who build systems with loud fans or have their system in a different data closet or something where noise is isolated. Why oh why is it so hard companies to not have separate card lineups and charge a premium for a coil whine free card.

 

[Frenzy]

so following on from my RMA, it was shown as 'No fault found' yet from my video you can clearly hear its dreadful. They still refunded, however it got me thinking.... I wonder if this is why there is so many issues with coil whine, that instead of it ever going back to manufacturer, they re-package it and re-sell it back on so these cards stay in circulation until someone accepts it.

I wonder too. Plenty of people here that seem to just accept it so I would not be surprised if they repackage. What else are they going to do? Use up time and find the problem component and replace it? I doubt it... would require more staffing and specific processes. Personally I think all the cards should be benched for whine at the factory, especially at this price. They run them to make sure they work, why can't they stick a mic next to it during the QA test?

 

[Wolverine2349]

I wonder too. Plenty of people here that seem to just accept it so I would not be surprised if they repackage. What else are they going to do? Use up time and find the problem component and replace it? I doubt it... would require more staffing and specific processes. Personally I think all the cards should be benched for whine at the factory, especially at this price. They run them to make sure they work, why can't they stick a mic next to it during the QA test?

Exactly and sell the good cards with no whine for an increased price.

Why oh why do they not do that!!

The whiney cards will still see at a slightly lower price. For crying out loud there are still loud fans on shelves that sell. Not everyone needs a quiet PC, so the whiney cards will still sell and those who do not care about too much noise will buy them at a lower price.

But no they do not do that and instead we are left playing the lottery and having to return cards that have audible coil whine/electrical buzz in a closed chassis within 5 feet of us in quiet room in low sound area of games (And that is even on so called fake quiet 4090s which in reality are still bad but just far less bad which is beyond unacceptable) until we finally get a quiet card. Not at all acceptable especially if they come around and start denying returns or RMAs due to coil whine. But either way even with a very large return budget like my local Micro Center (though not unlimited as eventually they will flag account for too many returns I think at like $10K - $12K or something), having to return and try again and return and try again until you get the right quiet card is a hassle and a pain and you risk eventually running into the wall of being flagged for excessive returns. And even if there was an unlimited return policy no $ limit amount, its still a PIA to have to buy and return and buy and return until you get a quiet card.

Its completely unacceptable and disgraceful service to those of us who make building a quiet computer a priority when gaming. I mean all the have to do is bin them for coil whine/electrical buzz and sell the quiet cards for a $500 markup or $1000 for all I care so I can get one and be done with it. But oh no they will not do it. Why oh why AIBs and NVIDIA do you not do that and mark it up $500 or even $1000 and make my life easier. For crying out loud Intel sells a 13900KS with a $200 markup which has better binned P cores so people do not have to bin 13900K CPUs and play the darn lottery. Why oh why once again AIBs and NVIDIA can't you do the same for your video cards??????

 

[Frenzy]

I personally don't think coil whine free cards should introduce a new price tier. I think it should be a standard expectation to have something relatively quiet. We have seen it's possible from people that have returned cards and finally received one that is quiet. And I know people have different standards for quiet but there's obviously a large enough difference between them as indicated by the experiences we have seen.

 

[Wolverine2349]

I personally don't think coil whine free cards should introduce a new price tier. I think it should be a standard expectation to have something relatively quiet. We have seen it's possible from people that have returned cards and finally received one that is quiet. And I know people have different standards for quiet but there's obviously a large enough difference between them as indicated by the experiences we have seen.

I actually agree, but if these companies are insistent on selling cards that whine as well as there are too many good ones in production that only whine but otherwise perform well and they do not want to soak up the costs of them but scrapping them, at the very least they could bin the ones that do not whine and sell them for a markup rather than waste my and other's time energy and stress over fear of being flagged for too many returns at a store or having to sell cards in a stressful effort to find a quiet 4090.

But yes how about they QA all cards and all have to be quiet from any electrical whine/buzzing noise under any load and no audible noise without your ear less than 1 inch or closer to the card that is form electrical coils, inductors, chokes, mosfetts or anything!!

 

[LambChop]

Completely agree with the last few posts, all good and logical. There just doesn't seem to be any issue at the manufacturing end or simply see it as normal. It would take a lot of pressure by say someone like linus or Jay2C. Our own emails will be deleted. Maybe popping some email's to these guys would start some traction.