4080 & 4090 Coil Whine Thread

[sebna]

You said pny 4090 aggghhhh I've one coming Tuesday..

Hi Mate,

How is your PNY for coil whine? Thanks

 

[sebna]

100% it certainly shouldn't be an issue. My PC I've spent quiet a bit making it look really good, so don't like the idea of hiding it in another room either.

What this has made me realize is I won't be day one for the 5090 cards. I'll wait for user feedback (from people sensitive to it only) and if they all have it my 4090 will be more than enough for a long time. I really did need to upgrade this gen as im driving a 77inch oled 120hz screen.

Honestly I'd rather silence over performance, especially now. It was a hassle and a half getting what I have but knowing I've got a silent high performance gaming machine feels really good. Nothing is audible and I love it.

Which Motherboard are you using?

I have here Giga Z790 Master which has coil whine so it goes back and the search continues. I though I will get Asus Maximus Hero but read reports that it has CW. I have not see any reports about Asus Z790 Proart but that is probably because it less popular choice so less people will complain.

 

[sebna]

I wouldn't say it's bad, I've had cards far worse. The only card I've had that didn't have any coil whine of any kind was a 1080Ti from Palit years ago.

To put a bit of context on the 4090 I have, if you're familiar with coil whine on PS5 consoles, they're far worse. I appreciate that the whine on PS5's is from the power supply but just using the noise a reference point.

I'm using a Define 7 XL, AX1600i and Z790 Apex.

Is your Apex coil whine free?

 

[ChocAndGray]

Is your Apex coil whine free?

I don’t actually know. I don’t believe there’s ever been noise from the motherboard, but where would the coil whine come from?

In normal use all I hear are the case fans, and the graphic card fans.

I would just stop my fans to try and listen to it to see if there is any noise from the apex.

Only thing I had heard about was severely bent boards so that’s all I was focused on when I first got it. And fortunately nothing major to note. Was as straight as any other board I’ve had. For the price it cost it should have re-enforcement like the extreme boards though.

 

[sebna]

I don’t actually know. I don’t believe there’s ever been noise from the motherboard, but where would the coil whine come from?

In normal use all I hear are the case fans, and the graphic card fans.

I would just stop my fans to try and listen to it to see if there is any noise from the apex.

Only thing I had heard about was severely bent boards so that’s all I was focused on when I first got it. And fortunately nothing major to note. Was as straight as any other board I’ve had. For the price it cost it should have re-enforcement like the extreme boards though.

Thanks for coming back to me.

My system is 0db over noise floor.

 

[sebna]

I read most of the thread and it seems there are no guaranteed coil whine free 4090 cards? Would that statement be correct?

It seems that quieter (in terms of Coil Whine) cards are Gigabyte and Pny, with Giga being maybe a tad quieter but with a tad more annoying sound of coil whine than PNY?

Have I missed something in terms of a better choices for lower CW chance?

What 4090 would you choose and why?

Thanks

 

[mrk]

My 3080 Ti FE had it at certain fps, like 500fps when in the menu of a game, otherwise it was fine. 2070 Super had it in games when the fps was in the low range, the 4090 Zotac Trinity does not have it to any degree that it's noticed.

The quickest way to test it is the little 3D test in GPU-Z.

 

[Troezar]

Reading this thread I'm glad I went for a 6950XT, my coil whine was £1,000 cheaper

 

[sebna]

My 3080 Ti FE had it at certain fps, like 500fps when in the menu of a game, otherwise it was fine. 2070 Super had it in games when the fps was in the low range, the 4090 Zotac Trinity does not have it to any degree that it's noticed.

The quickest way to test it is the little 3D test in GPU-Z.

But it seems that Zotac is using low quality fans and their motor makes noise independently from RPM, which would be a problem for my silent build.

From that perspective MSI or Asus would be best but at the same time CW seems to be almost guaranteed with those unless one is lucky to get a unicorn card.

PNY seems like a middle ground solution with mediocre fans but quieter than Zotac and with higher chance of lower volume of CW vs MSI / ASUS.

But I must admit that Zotac's 5 years warranty is very tempting.

 

[mrk]

My build is silent and I have no problems with fan noise from Zotac? It's quieter than my 3080 Ti FE at the same RPMs.

 

[mrk]

Also here's another post from melted connectors, this time the guy was on a Corsair SF PSU with the Corsair 12VHPWR cable. You can see from his build pics that there was snagging on the GPU side of the connector, which probably didn't help. The pin being burnt on the PSU end also indicates a non-snug connection so both combining into an SFF case could be the culprit as connectors are often snagged/bent at the ends to get everything rammed in such a tight space.

Reddit - Dive into anything

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I have a HX1000i PSU with teh Corsair cable too but nothig out of the ordinary on my build, HWINFO for the 12v GPU voltages reads:

And here is how my GPU end connector is going in, 0% strain:

 

[sebna]

My build is silent and I have no problems with fan noise from Zotac? It's quieter than my 3080 Ti FE at the same RPMs.

If the PNY I am getting has too much CW I might try Zotac next. Any chance you could post audio or video recording of different fan speeds of your Zotac while keeping other case cooling at min RPM?

That would be great and I would do the same with PNY when it arrives.

Thanks

EDIT: How is coil whine on yours Zotac?

 

[mrk]

If the PNY I am getting has too much CW I might try Zotac next. Any chance you could post audio or video recording of different fan speeds of your Zotac while keeping other case cooling at min RPM?

That would be great and I would do the same with PNY when it arrives.

Thanks

EDIT: How is coil whine on yours Zotac?

Sure here are some videos:


In-game VBIOS in quiet mode:

In-game VBIOS in normal mode:

The idle fan speed when you do something 3D in the desktop causing the fans to come on at a low idle rpm for a few mins or when you boot into Windows and the fans haven't entered the stop mode yet:

As for coil whine, not even noticed it tbh whereas I would notice it on the 3080 Ti FE!

For ref I keep it in quiet mode all the time, the other case fans etc don't spool faster than 500rpm until the CPU reaches 65 degrees, which is very rare nowadays due to games all being GPU bound at the settings I play.

 

[xrob]

my msi supreme x and ventus 4090 models both have zero coil while, the last card i had powercolor 6900xtx was horrendous, just luck of a draw i guess

 

[sebna]

my msi supreme x and ventus 4090 models both have zero coil while, the last card i had powercolor 6900xtx was horrendous, just luck of a draw i guess

I was so fixated on PNY alleged CW free operation, and then also after reading in this thread horror stories about MSI Suprim X I let me pass by some great deals for Suprim X and now the prices went crazy (300 more euros suddenly for Suprim X) so PNY it is.

If the prices were the same as 3-4 days ago I would probably cancel PNY and order Suprim X

Let's how this PNY performs acoustically both fan and CW wise.

 

[sebna]

Sure here are some videos:


In-game VBIOS in quiet mode:

In-game VBIOS in normal mode:

The idle fan speed when you do something 3D in the desktop causing the fans to come on at a low idle rpm for a few mins or when you boot into Windows and the fans haven't entered the stop mode yet:

As for coil whine, not even noticed it tbh whereas I would notice it on the 3080 Ti FE!

For ref I keep it in quiet mode all the time, the other case fans etc don't spool faster than 500rpm until the CPU reaches 65 degrees, which is very rare nowadays due to games all being GPU bound at the settings I play.

Thank you very much for taking time to make those vids for me and others. I will watch them now

 

[sebna]

Sure here are some videos:


In-game VBIOS in quiet mode:

In-game VBIOS in normal mode:

The idle fan speed when you do something 3D in the desktop causing the fans to come on at a low idle rpm for a few mins or when you boot into Windows and the fans haven't entered the stop mode yet:

As for coil whine, not even noticed it tbh whereas I would notice it on the 3080 Ti FE!

For ref I keep it in quiet mode all the time, the other case fans etc don't spool faster than 500rpm until the CPU reaches 65 degrees, which is very rare nowadays due to games all being GPU bound at the settings I play.

Ok I have watched them now. Thanks again. I can see why people say that motors are not the greatest as if I am not mistaken as to what I hear those can be clearly heard making noise but in general especially when in game under load with quiet bios it seems very reasonable. Are you gaming in 4k?

I was not that impressed with desktop performance but I am guessing that you are using GPU in zero fan mode and you let it spin when needed? Have you tried setting a custom curve for it instead?

I normally don't use 0 fan mode on my GPUs but instead set GPU fans to highest inaudible setting and adjust curve from there. So I leave GPU on highest inaudible fan RPM until 55-60C and after that I let it ramp up to 100% at 80C or something like it.

Is there an RPM that can be set like this? Inaudible but spinning and keeping GPU happy on desktop work? If so what % or RPM is it? If you could explore that for us. It would be also good to hear a recording of it to see if motor is inaudible when set like this.

Many thanks!

 

[mrk]

Ok I have watched them now. Thanks again. I can see why people say that motors are not the greatest as if I am not mistaken as to what I hear those can be clearly heard making noise but in general especially when in game under load with quiet bios it seems very reasonable. Are you gaming in 4k?

I was not that impressed with desktop performance but I am guessing that you are using GPU in zero fan mode and you let it spin when needed? Have you tried setting a custom curve for it instead?

I normally don't use 0 fan mode on my GPUs but instead set GPU fans to highest inaudible setting and adjust curve from there. So I leave GPU on highest inaudible fan RPM until 55-60C and after that I let it ramp up to 100% at 80C or something like it.

Is there an RPM that can be set like this? Inaudible but spinning and keeping GPU happy on desktop work? If so what % or RPM is it? If you could explore that for us. It would be also good to hear a recording of it to see if motor is inaudible when set like this.

Many thanks!

You can set whatever fan curve you desire through MSI Afterburner or Zotac's Firestorm utility, as well as switch the VBIOS mode using Firestorm.

Personally I don't use custom fan curves for the GPU since the default modes work perfectly. I leave the 4090 in the quiet VBIOS mode 24/7, outside of gaming it is in 0rpm mode and the GPU temp hovers around 45-51 degrees as there are some apps that use the GPU around the desktop like video players, browsers, Photoshop etc, the fans stay in 0rpm mode in these apps. Every now and then they will spool up to low rpm but I think that's just a predefined schedule to keep the fans active from time to time, the 3080 Ti FE and 2070 Super did this as well so must be an engineering design.

What were you not impressed with on desktop performance? As in performance you faced or from my video? For reference my last video shows the GPU fans active at around 1100rpm when you boot the PC up, this is normal for all GPUs and it goes into 0rpm within a minute of logging into Windows.

With a 40 series there is no need to set such high an curves too, 100% is mega loud even wearing headphones on all GPUs I have heard or owned, the 40 series are so efficient you'll never need to put a fan curve that high in any situation, plus if you are setting a lower power limit, like 70%, then the need is even less so since you're drawing up to 150 watts less power yet only losing -5% of performance.

I am gaming at 5160x2160 via DLDSR or 4586x1920 DLDSR for most games, Cyberpunk though is at 3440x1440 which is my native res.

As for inaudible operaio of the fans, anything below 1000rpm would be it, but again there's simply no need since the 40 series passively cool themselves anyway so well that 99% of the time the fans will remain at 0rpm. These should not be set up the same way past gen cards were with fan curves etc as it's no longer necessary thanks to the big jump in efficiency on Ada.

 

[xrob]

I was so fixated on PNY alleged CW free operation, and then also after reading in this thread horror stories about MSI Suprim X I let me pass by some great deals for Suprim X and now the prices went crazy (300 more euros suddenly for Suprim X) so PNY it is.

If the prices were the same as 3-4 days ago I would probably cancel PNY and order Suprim X

Let's how this PNY performs acoustically both fan and CW wise.

honestly speaking, i prefer my smaller MSI ventus, the heatsink itself is 2 slots, and only takes 4 screws to remove the shroud with fans. I have 2 x 120mm noctuas on it and an undervault, i dont think i've seen temps higher than 62 degrees.

I really think all the coolers on these cards are overkill, i cant beleive they use the same coolers on 4070 ti's

 

[aoaaron]

Sure here are some videos:


In-game VBIOS in quiet mode:

In-game VBIOS in normal mode:

The idle fan speed when you do something 3D in the desktop causing the fans to come on at a low idle rpm for a few mins or when you boot into Windows and the fans haven't entered the stop mode yet:

As for coil whine, not even noticed it tbh whereas I would notice it on the 3080 Ti FE!

For ref I keep it in quiet mode all the time, the other case fans etc don't spool faster than 500rpm until the CPU reaches 65 degrees, which is very rare nowadays due to games all being GPU bound at the settings I play.

I can hear the coil whine in the second video quite clearly