Soldato
You do realise there is FAR more than just 2 games out there? I would love to list every game again but you can google yourself.
I play a large variety of games (probably far more than most people here), graphics are great to help with immersion but it's second to gameplay for me, most games have RT "these days" so I'm not prioritising visuals at all, it just simply is there in games now and I have the hardware to enable it so why wouldn't I? As long as I can hit 80/90+ fps, I'm good, if it is a shooter/MP game, I'll drop settings or/and use a higher preset of dlss to get 160+ fps.
To me dead island was boring, didn't the new one get panned? Give me 7 days to die any day of the week.
There's your problem, it sounds like you are trying to max out graphics at 4k and not expect to use upscaling tech. and just be able to get 60+ fps.... Just because there is a ultra/max/high setting doesn't mean you have to use it... Again, why do you refuse to use tech. which has been shown with a ton of evidence now to provide as good or better than native along with a huge performance boost? Do you like shooting yourself in the foot?
Again I'm happily enjoying and playing RT games here, I'm getting better visuals over people who refuse to enable upscaling and turn off RT, that's their choice if they want a lesser experience or prioritise high fps.
I'm not playing cp 2077 now because I have already played it 3 times and I'm waiting on the next dlc before going back, I enjoy cp 2077 regardless of RT.
You made the statements saying to stop supporting RT "now" because it isn't worthwhile or/and usable and only get raster gpus when that is complete and utter nonsense tbph, again, if you choose to not use RT or upscaling, then great, amd and nvidia offer plenty of choice here for you to stay in the raster era.
Of course I realise. The part you don't seem to realise is that I buy GPUs based on what is coming, not what I have. I have never been in a situation where I could not run what I have.
I think you also have failed to understand what I am talking about. In any shape or form.
When the 1080Ti came out it was so powerful at what it did Nvidia almost shot themselves in the foot. Hardly any one bought a 20 series GPU unless they needed one period. Even less bought it for RT. It also sold really poorly because it wasn't all that in raster. The 1080Ti was more than enough. But of course, they wanted more people to adopt RT. Of course they did, it was their main source of revenue. As such? we have taken a monumental step back for nothing more than visual accuracy. There are tons of ways to mimic the effects of ray tracing without crippling a GPU. But that isn't what they want is it? they want the GPU crippled so you keep on buying more, whilst they keep on putting the prices higher and higher and higher. And this is why you should be smart enough not to fall for the marketing, but it sounds like you clearly have. In fact, as the post goes on you seem to concede more and more. Maybe what I said has made you realise how unimportant RT is? Or, maybe as your post goes you are starting to mention the exact sacrifices I pointed out? IDK. Every time you enable a feature like DLSS, or frame gen, or whatever else they try and do to make the game run better because how poor the GPUs are at it? you make a sacrifice. This is where I don't understand your argument. You are a strong supporter of RT because you think it is amazing and LOOKS so much better, but at the same time you acknowledge what I said about losing visual fidelity BECAUSE of it dude. Think about what you are saying to me before you say it.
I will reiterate, again - No GPU on this earth can PROPERLY and FULLY path trace a game without falling on its face. At £1700 every two years. Think about that for a moment before you support it. I DON'T support it. At all. Games run more than well enough without it, and UE 5+ will make games look even better.
As for me only playing two games? that is an assumption on your part. I don't, BTW, I am just really enjoying DI2 right now. On a 2080Ti, at 4k, 'cause you know? it still can. Because there isn't a whiff of the GPU crippler anywhere and it looks incredible.
I play PUBG nearly every night. Also doesn't need RT, looks like total hot garbage now but is FUN more than anything. I've bought TLOU remaster, which I will get to when DI2 is done, and again, not a whiff of RT but looks stunning. So much so they have had to nerf it and compromise the visuals because AMD and Nvidia got all greedy and squeaky.
Those are two recent examples of what I play, NOT what I play period.
I will also say it again? RT can absolutely and utterly ROT if this is what it is going to cost. No thanks, go away, jog on etc.