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40th Anniversary Intel - Core i7-8086K - 5.0GHz+

Panos said:
Way before. When AMD made far superior and far cheaper CPUs than Intel.
Like the AMD 386DX40 which was (as you quess) 21% faster than the Intel 386DX33. Or the 486DX80/120 when Intel best offering was at 66Mhz lol.
And always at much less price.
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Of course. :o
So were the original AMD chips exact copies of Intel's design but fabricated by AMD?
I'd never realised they were that assuming that's what they were.
I didn't really discover AMD until the turn of the century but had dabbled with Cyrix when they used to have great integer performance at the time when their weak FP units wasn't an issue for me.
 
smilingcrow said:
Of course. :o
So were the original AMD chips exact copies of Intel's design but fabricated by AMD?
I'd never realised they were that assuming that's what they were.
I didn't really discover AMD until the turn of the century but had dabbled with Cyrix when they used to have great integer performance at the time when their weak FP units wasn't an issue for me.
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Right, It was a design partnership but actually X86 was Intel's and AMD had the right to make them, this was part of an agreement that IBM would buy Intel's chips so long as they worked with AMD on those existing chips and further designs.

The ink was barely dry when Intel reneged on it, what AMD did have 'after long legal rumblings' was the right to design their own X86 CPU's, so that's what they did, and better at the time and for a long time after than Intel themselves, to their decades of frustration.
 
Going down to buy one of these tomorrow hopefully, just a bit undecided between this and a pre binned delidded 8700k at what looks to be about £50 quid more, just a bit worried that it wont reach 5ghz on all cores without some insane temperatures, after having had a not so great 7700k with fans spinning up and down everywhere with a mild overclock!

Edit: To above poster if you manually overclock it and sync all cores / have multi core enhancement enabled yes all would go to 5ghz but thats when the heat kicks in without delidding unless these can do 5ghz at some crazy low voltage
 
humbug said:
Right, It was a design partnership but actually X86 was Intel's and AMD had the right to make them, this was part of an agreement that IBM would buy Intel's chips so long as they worked with AMD on those existing chips and further designs.

The ink was barely dry when Intel reneged on it, what AMD did have 'after long legal rumblings' was the right to design their own X86 CPU's, so that's what they did...
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My understanding is that AMD were merely partners in the sense that Intel shared their technology to the extent that AMD could manufacturer Intel compatible chips to keep IBM happy so there was no design input from AMD.
Maybe it turned out for the best that AMD lost the right to manufacture Intel's designs from the 386 onward!
Otherwise, if Intel's Fabs had pulled ahead, AMD wouldn't have had their own x86 designs to offset losing at the manufacturing level.
Sometimes what seems like a loss is a long term gain, so Intel did us all a favour. :)
 
A point i just realised why are ocuk still selling 4.9 ghz binned cpus? or even 5 ghz ones?

You can literally now buy a good-golden sample 5ghz 8700k for 380 does not make sense to me (tbh 4.9 never made sense anyway)
 
Well if you buy a 8086K you'll need to overclock it from stock 4GHz all core.

The binned 8700k has an overclock profile from the company selling it to them which will make it do 4.9 or 5GHz all core.

There's enough people out there for it to tick the right boxes for someone.
 
I'm waiting to see who on here win's one of these. With 500 allocated for the UK there's a good chance someone will. I bet we'll see a good few on a popular auction site too as I imagine many will cash in rather than change system to use their new 8086K.

Edit: stupid phone!
 
If they've been binning 8700Ks then firstly there will already be chips out there with the same performance and secondly the 8700ks being sold now have had the best ones stripped out.
 
Looks like stock turbo Bins are:

43 - 6 core
44
44
45
46
50 - 1 core

So at stock it's binned extra just for that extra single core turbo and higher base frequency.
 
I'm debating whether to order one of these or a Ryzen 2700X. Decisions, decisions. The fact that the mobo I want for a Ryzen doesn't seem to be available anywhere at sensible money might help sway that, mind.
 
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