*** 4K Player Thread ***

deuse said:
The more UHD players the better.
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This is correct. More players = more competition = cheaper players = more demand = rinse and repeat.


We all win. Well, except oppo buyers, they'll get shafted but they'll be happy to do so for that oh so sweet and creamy UHD oppo goodness. Business as usual :p
 
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rolypolyman said:
Just a wee update re my Xbox One S and the 4K Blu-ray player. The xbox recognised my Panasonic DX700 as a 4K HDR 10bit (only 8bit ) tv and after a large update I sat down to watch 'The Revenant' 4K UHD HDR Blu-ray. It was glorious, easily the best 4K HDR content I have seen and the xbox was faultless in playing it.
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I'm sure I read a review which said the XBox didn't support HDR. Has this now been fixed?
 
Only the Xbox One S supports HDR content. Not the original Xbox One. Also on my Panasonic TV if you press the info button it displays what you are watching and when playing The Revenant UHD HDR Blu-Ray it showed XBOX 3840X2160 @ 60Hz HDR.



What's HDR?

HDR stands for High Dynamic Range. With HDR on your Xbox One S, your TV can display deeper colors and richer contrast, meaning the picture will appear more vibrant and realistic than on a regular HDTV.

To display HDR, you must have HDR content. Content that's recorded for regular TV and non-HDR games won't appear different—to see true HDR, look for HDR UltraHD Blu-ray discs, HDR content in video streaming apps, and HDR games.



There are two HDR formats that your TV manufacturer can choose to support: HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Your TV must support HDR10 to display HDR content from your Xbox One S. See Troubleshooting 4K and HDR on Xbox One S for more info.

Turning on HDR

If your 4K TV is set up correctly, it should automatically play HDR content—you don't have to change anything on your Xbox.

To check, double-tap the Xbox button to open the guide, go to Settings > All settings, choose Display & sound > Video output, and then choose Advanced video settings. Both the Allow 4K and the Allow HDR settings should be checked if you want HDR on.

Also, check your TV's settings menus to make sure HDR is turned on. Your TV must also support the HDR10 media profile to display HDR.

If you're playing HDR content but it doesn't show as HDR, see Troubleshooting 4K and HDR on Xbox One S.

If you'd like to learn what your TV can do, see Checking your TV's 4K and HDR capabilities on Xbox One S.

Hope this helps. :D
 
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Some folks have had HDR problems on xbox one s.
But with the entry of the panasonic dmp-u700 at £400, if I do not want gaming I think I would go that way
another xbox one s review - for these reasons -

- will not uspscale regular blu-ray, pan has accolades for scaler and if it also does a good job for sd/dvd, scaling iplayer, sd media, etc too .. great !
- noise (two blue ray drives I have had have been intrusively noisy Sony, Samsung) Sony broke down too, so I want a 5year guarantee , however only seem to get 2years on Pan at JL
- Pan has Dolby vision too (so can I guess render dolby vision as best as possible on an hdr10 compatible tv)
- Xbox one s seems to miss out on some of the Amazon uhd content.

I assume both Pan and Xbox have regioned blue-ray players though, I would have liked multi-standard
 
rolypolyman said:
Only the Xbox One S supports HDR content.
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I'm well aware that only the S can play UHD discs.

Also on my Panasonic TV if you press the info button it displays what you are watching and when playing The Revenant UHD HDR Blu-Ray it showed XBOX 3840X2160 @ 60Hz HDR.
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Ok fair enough it's obviously playing HDR then. I definitely read a review which said it didn't support it so maybe an update has now fixed that.
 
How come the Revenant appears as 60hz and not ~24hz - which I thought uhd films were natively at , or is it doing 3:2 pull-down ?
 
varkanoid said:
Could this be partly due to the fact that UHD discs are region free as I have 3 or 4 non UK release discs and intend to buy more when available.
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I know LIONSGATE normal blu ray that come with the UHD version is region locked.

jpaul said:
How come the Revenant appears as 60hz and not ~24hz - which I thought uhd films were natively at , or is it doing 3:2 pull-down ?
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Yes it should be doing 24. Something not right there.
 
jpaul said:
- Pan has Dolby vision too (so can I guess render dolby vision as best as possible on an hdr10 compatible tv)
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No UHD blu-ray player has Dolby Vision at the moment, and certainly not the cheaper Panasonic that has been announced.
You also need a Dolby Vision chip in the TV to render it, so limited currently to the 2016 LG OLED TVs.
I can vouch for it being rather nice though, Marco Polo series 2 looked great on my LG 65" B6, and that's just a stream and not a 4K blu-ray!
 
Thanks my error on Dolby Vision support
(seems as though DV discs can/will? also be mastered/include HDR10, so a HDR10 player would not be left out; although tv needs a chip for DV support unclear why firmware on player could not be updated, but maybe hardware cannot manage the 12bits ...or licensing ?)

Varkanoid - are uhd also cheaper from the States, or is it just to get releases early ?
(Have not looked to see whether Criterion will be mastering 4K's from back catalogue - and then need to wait for the Barne&Noble sales to import some good deals - like before with Blu-ray) ... easy if you are visiting US anyway.
 
jpaul said:
Thanks my error on Dolby Vision support
(seems as though DV discs can/will? also be mastered/include HDR10, so a HDR10 player would not be left out; although tv needs a chip for DV support unclear why firmware on player could not be updated, but maybe hardware cannot manage the 12bits ...or licensing ?)

Varkanoid - are uhd also cheaper from the States, or is it just to get releases early ?
(Have not looked to see whether Criterion will be mastering 4K's from back catalogue - and then need to wait for the Barne&Noble sales to import some good deals - like before with Blu-ray) ... easy if you are visiting US anyway.
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Dolby Vision is HDR10 with metadata to enable scene by scene HDR. So 'standard' HDR will always be there for non-DV TVs and players. There's the possibility that this method could be used without hardware, but Dolby like money, and Dolby like premiums...! :)
 
jpaul said:
Varkanoid - are uhd also cheaper from the States, or is it just to get releases early ?
(Have not looked to see whether Criterion will be mastering 4K's from back catalogue - and then need to wait for the Barne&Noble sales to import some good deals - like before with Blu-ray) ... easy if you are visiting US anyway.
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I think its mainly to get releases early as the price difference is within a pound or so (ie cheaper in US). However I have found a couple of offers, eg Batman v Superman UHD in Australia was going for £9.99 a few weeks ago but I already bought that.

For instance Star Trek Beyond UHD in the US is meant to be out 20th Sept but UK release is not till Jan 2017. Also there have been rumours that Captain America Civil War UHD is out in US November but I dont know whether thats just someone making it up.

I`m quite happy to pay near enough same price to get the film early.

deuse said:
I know LIONSGATE normal blu ray that come with the UHD version is region locked.
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Yep the HD blu rays that come with UHD releases are region locked but who is going to want to play the HD blu ray when the UHD one is there ?
 
varkanoid said:
For instance Star Trek Beyond UHD in the US is meant to be out 20th Sept but UK release is not till Jan 2017.
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Uk release has been updated to 21st November :D

My current pre-orders

Star Trek Beyond
Suiside squad
The martian extended
Oblivion
Ghostbusters 1-3
Labyrinth
Independence day Resurgence
X-Men: Apocalypse
 
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