*** 4K Player Thread ***

Had the chap from hdtvtest.co.uk over last night to calibrate my 55EF950V. Good job, looks a lot better.

Hooked up the UB900 for the first time and did some tests. Had to update the firmware in my AV Receiver to support HDR but was simple enough.

HDR on OLED. Interesting. Doesn't make a massive difference. OLED already gives you fantastic colour range and contrast. I think HDR is really for the LCD folk.



TALON1973 - Apparently the UHD Oblivion isn't very good, they've applied too much filtering etc on it and it's not great, which is an epic shame. It's one of my favourite films and sounds awesome.
 
ov_sjo said:
Had the chap from hdtvtest.co.uk over last night to calibrate my 55EF950V. Good job, looks a lot better.

Hooked up the UB900 for the first time and did some tests. Had to update the firmware in my AV Receiver to support HDR but was simple enough.

HDR on OLED. Interesting. Doesn't make a massive difference. OLED already gives you fantastic colour range and contrast. I think HDR is really for the LCD folk.



TALON1973 - Apparently the UHD Oblivion isn't very good, they've applied too much filtering etc on it and it's not great, which is an epic shame. It's one of my favourite films and sounds awesome.
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Did you press the info button on the players remote to show HDR was working?
the only reason I ask is that some LG TVs(same as sony) you have to turn on 4K in the TV options for that HDMI.
 
ov_sjo - did the guy from hdvtest not validate the connectivity and throughput of hdr from the ub900 to the tv ? I thought maybe there was now an hdr test disk of some kind (in another thread on OC's someone discussed having ub900 calibrated too)

Nonetheless HDR is more beneficial when you are watching in low light conditions, especially on oled with the lower max nits (/abl functionality) - did you try at day and night ?
 
jpaul said:
ov_sjo - did the guy from hdvtest not validate the connectivity and throughput of hdr from the ub900 to the tv ? I thought maybe there was now an hdr test disk of some kind (in another thread on OC's someone discussed having ub900 calibrated too)

Nonetheless HDR is more beneficial when you are watching in low light conditions, especially on oled with the lower max nits (/abl functionality) - did you try at day and night ?
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This, I have no lights on in my lounge, I have the dining room light on and find it filters through at just the right amount. I believe five candles is the recommended light level for watching HDR.
 
ChocolateStarfishRammer said:
I've been very tempted!

As a pure out of interest, has anyone compared a UHD 4k Bluray playing from this, to say a downloaded (yes pirated, no I'm not condoning it) full quality UHD 4k Bluray?

Just wondering if there is a considerable difference in quality?
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If it's not compressed, why would there be? I'd like to see a sky q/Netflix/uhd/ Amazon 4k comparison.
 
ChocolateStarfishRammer said:
I've been very tempted!

As a pure out of interest, has anyone compared a UHD 4k Bluray playing from this, to say a downloaded (yes pirated, no I'm not condoning it) full quality UHD 4k Bluray?

Just wondering if there is a considerable difference in quality?
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No one has cracked the 4K UHD blurays yet, so you can't download them or even rip your own at the moment.

Only 4K releases out are either from Netflix/Amazon or some copies via capture devices, only no HDR possible I guess without the original source 4K UHD blurays or whatever.
 
Netflix 4k like sky movies is also running about 15Mb/s - coincidental that (bought same encode ?)
@theone8181 if you look in Q thread a review equates these with normal blu-ray quality.
If sky choose to deliver the movies by satellite they could use 40Mb/s like the sport - that would be class leading.
 
jpaul said:
Netflix 4k like sky movies is also running about 15Mb/s - coincidental that (bought same encode ?)
@theone8181 if you look in Q thread a review equates these with normal blu-ray quality.
If sky choose to deliver the movies by satellite they could use 40Mb/s like the sport - that would be class leading.
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If they did 4k over Sat I don't think there would be that many channels tho.
 
theone8181 said:
If it's not compressed, why would there be? I'd like to see a sky q/Netflix/uhd/ Amazon 4k comparison.
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For reasons I haven't thought of :)

HungryHippos said:
No one has cracked the 4K UHD blurays yet, so you can't download them or even rip your own at the moment.

Only 4K releases out are either from Netflix/Amazon or some copies via capture devices, only no HDR possible I guess without the original source 4K UHD blurays or whatever.
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Interesting. So the odd 60gb movie downloads of let's say The Martian, they wouldn't be direct rips from the uhd 4K bluray?
 
theone8181 if they dedicated a sat channel(s) to giving download/offline 40Mb/s contents delivered to the skyq disk that might work ? just have to think in advance what you want to watch. Delivering it by IPtv/broadband might saturate users/network
However maybe their license to distribute demands nothing higher than xMb/s

New Intel Kaby lake should help 4k play on laptops/NUC

I have not yet see any 4K content from the Olympics or reviews of the NBC tarnsmissions ... waiting for Bolts 10s !
 
ChocolateStarfishRammer said:
Interesting. So the odd 60gb movie downloads of let's say The Martian, they wouldn't be direct rips from the uhd 4K bluray?
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I believe they are done using some kind of capture device that is grabbing the stream via the HDMI output, and I've not seen any with HDR meta data as the source has not been hacked yet.

I'm interested in getting one of the XBOX One S's as a 4k player, seems like the most cost effective way to do it, and also provides the console experience should I so wish to use it.

Sadly my AV Receiver does not seem to support HDCP so I'd probably either have to run it directly to my TV (it does support HDCP) and then rely on ARC for the audio, or run two HDMI leads out of the XBOX One S, one to the AVR and another to the TV. Potential 3rd option I guess would be a splitter or similar. I'd probably upgrade the AVR in the future but it was something I wanted to put off doing at the moment.

I'd be very selective about which films I cared to watch in 4k though, the BR's are expensive compared to their 1080p counterparts, would probably stick to a best of the best scenario, or films I think I may re-watch occasionally.
 
jpaul said:
ov_sjo - did the guy from hdvtest not validate the connectivity and throughput of hdr from the ub900 to the tv ? I thought maybe there was now an hdr test disk of some kind (in another thread on OC's someone discussed having ub900 calibrated too)

Nonetheless HDR is more beneficial when you are watching in low light conditions, especially on oled with the lower max nits (/abl functionality) - did you try at day and night ?
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It was the HDTVTest chap who explained to me that hdr on oled isn't amazing. Yes it was definitely enabled, in fact I had to upgrade the firmware on my avr.
 
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