*** 4K Player Thread ***

As I understand it - the summary of the oled hdr limitation, viewing in a non-dark environment is :
need to be able to go bright relative to ambiant light to see the benefit of HDR, but oled has relatively low maximum brightness (both natively and due to average brightness restrictions to keep power consumption in EU limits, plus avoid burn-in) so hdr effect is limited .
LED goes brighter so its HDR effect is better in lighter viewing environment.

Conversely oled has wonderful/infinite(turns off) blacks versus LED benefiting HDR viewing in low ambiant light.

So there is no panacea hdr tv solution for day and night viewing.
[personally never view tv in a completely black environment , but perhaps I would if I had an oled :) and not multi-tasking/adhd]

Maybe the 64K$ question is (similar to the question of at what viewing distance 4k is beneficial) at what ambiant light level is the human eye able to see the benefit of HDR on an oled panel of a particular brightness.

The other benefit of HDR10 is the wider colour gamut on the panel - perhaps less impacted by viewing environment ?
 
I believe they are done using some kind of capture device that is grabbing the stream via the HDMI output, and I've not seen any with HDR meta data as the source has not been hacked yet.

I'm interested in getting one of the XBOX One S's as a 4k player, seems like the most cost effective way to do it, and also provides the console experience should I so wish to use it.

Sadly my AV Receiver does not seem to support HDCP so I'd probably either have to run it directly to my TV (it does support HDCP) and then rely on ARC for the audio, or run two HDMI leads out of the XBOX One S, one to the AVR and another to the TV. Potential 3rd option I guess would be a splitter or similar. I'd probably upgrade the AVR in the future but it was something I wanted to put off doing at the moment.

I'd be very selective about which films I cared to watch in 4k though, the BR's are expensive compared to their 1080p counterparts, would probably stick to a best of the best scenario, or films I think I may re-watch occasionally.

Ok thanks for the info.. I may too jump on the Xbox One S.

Also for your problem, HDMI to the TV and Optical to the Amp ;)
 
This is correct. More players = more competition = cheaper players = more demand = rinse and repeat.


We all win. Well, except oppo buyers, they'll get shafted but they'll be happy to do so for that oh so sweet and creamy UHD oppo goodness. Business as usual :p

Price not as bad as I was expecting (£599), I will be ordering this.

https://www.avforums.com/product/product.10514

It has support for Dolby Vision and SACD playback which is not available on other uhd players that have already released.
 
Price not as bad as I was expecting (£599), I will be ordering this.

https://www.avforums.com/product/product.10514

It has support for Dolby Vision and SACD playback which is not available on other uhd players that have already released.

hmm now that has my interest peaked ... is that an official uk release or import ? Should be able to flog the panny for about £500 I hope
 
Don't care about the vision part. Although sacd and dvd audio is nice.

Im really impressed with the Oppo too, and the SACD compatibility is a lovely benefit (in theory, as I dont have any SACDs yet)

I would suggest they would have to hit the £600 mark or there abouts as even the premium Panasonic is this price (and I believe Pana also has good audio /stereo electronics also, so should be comparable to the oppo). Maybe a little leeway pricewise but not much, if they tried (lets say) £1000 Im really not sure the market would stomach it at the moment, even though there are only a handful of devices available.


Im surprised and chuffed to hear the Xbox 1 S having two HDMI out's as I was certain this would be the limiting factor in this console (after all they are trying to keep the price down as much as possible, and this would be a good way to do it).

Im leaning towards an S before a PS 4 Pro, and never thought I woudl say that.
 
Just took advantage of the great tesco bundle to upgrade my old X box one to the new S. Planning on getting a new 4K HDR capable TV in the next couple of months and will also need a new AV reciever. Anyone got any decent recommendations? Budget between £300-£400
 
Just took advantage of the great tesco bundle to upgrade my old X box one to the new S. Planning on getting a new 4K HDR capable TV in the next couple of months and will also need a new AV reciever. Anyone got any decent recommendations? Budget between £300-£400

I love my 4k Samsung 40" that I paid £400 for. But be aware you will get compromises. If you like sport you might be disappointed. Motion blur might be an issue.
 
I love my 4k Samsung 40" that I paid £400 for. But be aware you will get compromises. If you like sport you might be disappointed. Motion blur might be an issue.

Sorry maybe didn't make that post the clearest, its an AV reciever I'm after, budget between £300-400. Next year I'll be getting a new TV.
 
Im surprised and chuffed to hear the Xbox 1 S having two HDMI out's as I was certain this would be the limiting factor in this console (after all they are trying to keep the price down as much as possible, and this would be a good way to do it).

Im leaning towards an S before a PS 4 Pro, and never thought I woudl say that.

The XBOX One s doesn't have two HDMI outputs, it has one output and one input for connecting a set top box to have TV through the UI just like the original XBOX One.
 
Does the Xbox One S support HDR on 4k Blu-rays? We've got a new 4k TV and I want to test out what HDR looks like. I'm considering the Xbox One S as a media centre and Blu-ray player. Seems like a decent deal to me and I can move the old Xbox One to the dinning room.
 
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