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beachBOYken · 14 Jul 2017 at 09:40

varkanoid said:
JB Hifi have got the release date down as 23/08 on pre-order @ £28 tho.

£20 or there about's is my limit.

Recently purchased Fifth Element on UHD, great movie and the picture and sound is very good, highly recommended.
As older movies go on UHD, this is the best Ive seen yet.

varkanoid · 14 Jul 2017 at 10:27

tempted to get it but my bluray of it is still shrink wrapped !

deuse · 14 Jul 2017 at 10:41

beachBOYken said:
£20 or there about's is my limit.

Recently purchased Fifth Element on UHD, great movie and the picture and sound is very good, highly recommended.
As older movies go on UHD, this is the best Ive seen yet.

Was there much grain? only asking as I hate grain in films.

beachBOYken · 14 Jul 2017 at 10:59

deuse said:
Was there much grain? only asking as I hate grain in films.

Some scenes have grain, noticed it in the sky in the first scene (desert), personally I found it ok and in general the picture is crystal clean.

Grain isn't always a bad thing, I hate it when its just used for the sake of it, a lot of Netflix shows use it and its just not needed.

The Fifth Element uses it in some scenes but I find it perfectly fine.

Sony have done an excellent job with this disc!

deuse · 14 Jul 2017 at 11:03

beachBOYken said:
Some scenes have grain, noticed it in the sky in the first scene (desert), personally I found it ok and in general the picture is crystal clean.

Grain isn't always a bad thing, I hate it when its just used for the sake of it, a lot of Netflix shows use it and its just not needed.

The Fifth Element uses it in some scenes but I find it perfectly fine.

Sony have done an excellent job with this disc!

Thank you. I may get this one then

If you have the Panasonic player you can set it to either 10bit or 12bit. Which may get rid of the grain.

beachBOYken · 14 Jul 2017 at 11:07

deuse said:
Thank you. I may get this one then
If you have the Panasonic player you can set it to either 10bit or 12bit. Which may get rid of the grain.

Ive got the oppo 203, I have that on auto which gives me 12bit, have to try that as it can do both. Im pretty sure the grain is intentional in the scenes it was in though.

Cheer's

Vertigo · 14 Jul 2017 at 20:29

beachBOYken said:
Ive got the oppo 203, I have that on auto which gives me 12bit, have to try that as it can do both. Im pretty sure the grain is intentional in the scenes it was in though.

Cheer's

It's not "intentional", that infers it's been added deliberately. It's a facet of the original film stock on which it was shot and rescanning at 4K can emphasise it a bit more. Most people prefer to keep the grain rather than try to digitally smooth it out as you can lose detail that way, much the same as when you use noise reduction on still photos. Of course newer films shot digitally don't have this grain but it's sometimes added for "effect".

Carl_Bennetts · 16 Jul 2017 at 20:06

I picked up Lego Batman as my first 4k film but I'm not 100% blown away by the picture. My setup is Samsung KS7000 and k8500 player. I actually think streaming Netflix in 4k looks sharper. Could the HDMI cable I have, not outputting high speed? Tv reports it's HDR and UHD though. I popped the bluray disc in and it's defo sharper than that but looks like I'm not getting a crisp picture.

I assume if I get a picture then my HDMI cable is fine.

beachBOYken · 16 Jul 2017 at 20:15

A few shots of The Fifth Element UHD.

peahead · 16 Jul 2017 at 21:53

How is the film grain on The Fifth Element UHD ?

peahead · 16 Jul 2017 at 21:59

Carl_Bennetts said:
I picked up Lego Batman as my first 4k film but I'm not 100% blown away by the picture. My setup is Samsung KS7000 and k8500 player. I actually think streaming Netflix in 4k looks sharper. Could the HDMI cable I have, not outputting high speed? Tv reports it's HDR and UHD though. I popped the bluray disc in and it's defo sharper than that but looks like I'm not getting a crisp picture.

I assume if I get a picture then my HDMI cable is fine.

Are you using the same picture settings as when you are watching netflix UHD ?

beachBOYken · 17 Jul 2017 at 08:47

peahead said:
How is the film grain on The Fifth Element UHD ?

Does have grain, but some scenes more than others.

Carl_Bennetts · 17 Jul 2017 at 12:16

peahead said:
Are you using the same picture settings as when you are watching netflix UHD ?

Yep - I changed the tv settings to the same as the ps4 pro that I use for HDR games

deuse · 18 Jul 2017 at 08:52

So no DV on disc from Disney. But you will be able to stream it via a code.

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/071717-1430#.WW1QaUUgdyU.twitter

FrankJH · 23 Jul 2017 at 14:44

Vertigo1 said:
It's not "intentional", that infers it's been added deliberately. It's a facet of the original film stock on which it was shot and rescanning at 4K can emphasise it a bit more. Most people prefer to keep the grain rather than try to digitally smooth it out as you can lose detail that way, much the same as when you use noise reduction on still photos. Of course newer films shot digitally don't have this grain but it's sometimes added for "effect".

Its intentional by fact of the choice of film stock, not by "adding" grain or not.
Director could have chosen different stock, but knowingly chose that which would include natural grain (obviously filmed well before 4k, so additional grain from the re-mastering is an unfortunate by-product but even so)

as with every director made choice (one of millions per film) its still intentional

TALON1973 · 23 Jul 2017 at 15:15

jpaul said:
not much acivity on this thread - maybe amazon prime day will rejuvinate it, and offer some deals.
(if you know someone with Prime anyway, I dislike the Amazon them~~primates~~ and us marketting)

A question to UB900 owners - will this access 4K hdr services on Amazon/Netflix/Youtube ?
I am thinking this (well ub300 £189 RS) seems an excellent player and streamer, the manuals do not list vp9 as a supported usb 4k codec, just hevc, but otherwise, could be a sweet point.
Ub300 does not have all the capabilities of ub900, but tear down pictures show similar layout/circuit-boards/build-quality

The ub900 does 4k and hdr netflix. 4k youtube also , so id assume amazon 4k . But id avoid the 300 model. go 400 minimal.

ajf · 23 Jul 2017 at 15:38

Quick question.
Is 4k BD region free?
Using Xbox One S for playback.

jpaul · 23 Jul 2017 at 16:20

deuse said:
So no DV on disc from Disney. But you will be able to stream it via a code.
http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/071717-1430#.WW1QaUUgdyU.twitter

Now then... first things first: I’ve just finally heard back from Disney on the matter of the High Dynamic Range that will be included on the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 4K Ultra HD release. The disc itself will only include HDR-10. The 4K Digital Copy, accessible via a code in the packaging, will apparently offer a choice of HDR-10 or Dolby Vision. Why this should be is rather unfathomable, but that’s apparently official per word from the studio. I guess third time checking in with them’s the charm. Sorry that’s not the news many of you wanted to hear, but I appreciate your patience given all the confusion.

interesting - how does the 4k hdr10/dv digital download work then ? can you store it on a NAS, but playback limited to a particular (kaby lake ?) hardware

hyperseven · 23 Jul 2017 at 16:34

ajf said:
Quick question.
Is 4k BD region free?
Using Xbox One S for playback.

All UHDs are region free, for now.

Vertigo · 23 Jul 2017 at 17:03

hyperseven said:
All UHDs are region free, for now.

No, forever. The UHD spec doesn't include region locking.

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