Ah, I'm the opposite really, I assume everyone possess a godly knowledge until they prove otherwise!
. . . I used to be like you but being a smart *** didn't make me very popular or win me new friends!
Probably true. However it's a small step from assuming everyone knows more than me to stopping questioning what they say. If it later turns out they were talking rubbish, I've now acquired a large amount of "knowledge" which isn't actually true. Even worse I may never realise it was untrue, and build upon and distribute this falsehood. I'd rather be disliked than make deductions based on poor information
so according to what you said above that would be me, Shadow Scotland and yourself then with everyone else seeing slow!
I have more faith in the community than this. People should all be able to comprehend that faster is a relative term, as in the dog runs faster than the man but slower than the horse doesn't imply we should all buy horses. "Better" is the more risky one, as it is a subjective judgment based on a large number of unlisted criteria, so "i7 is better than phenom" is an irrelevant statement. "Phenom is better than i7" would be exactly as meaningless.
Fair enough . . . I personally like the idea of people keeping money in their pockets,
You make a good point here. It would be sad for people to place themselves in a bad financial position because they bought too fast a computer. I hope this happens infrequently.
Show me what you got big boy!
I've never run everest, but assuming it's available for free I'll be pleased to. Tragically my UD5 died on me a couple of days back and is now being shipped to milton keynes, once it's up and running again if I'm showing signs of forgetting please remind me. I'll be thrilled the AMD one wins, more experience building imcs suggests it will do.
Sorry to be nosey but is your machine a tool that generates profit? . . . I am wondering if this is like someone who hasn't got that much money bit as long as they have the most powerful consumer computer in the world then things ain't to bad. I'd like to know what programs you run except Folding@home as I may download and run them to see how this AMD® Athlon™ II system performs . . .
Sort of. It's a great aid to education, and the hope is that said education leads to interesting work with the side effect of providing money to spend on things I don't strictly need. I'm taking an engineering degree at present. There's been a few times where it's really justified itself over cheaper alternatives. I set mathematica solving a differential equation (analytically) a few weeks back which was of great help to the coursework I was doing at the time. It took my i7 @ 4ghz a good seven hours to solve it and there's not a chance I'd have found the solution by hand. This is far better than however many weeks it would have taken my netbook. When modelling, any computer can cope with simple models, then struggles increasingly as complexity increases. The more subassemblies active, and the more relationships between them, the quicker the computer has to be to cope, but the faster the design process can go. If it's the difference between finishing the workpiece in two hours or in twelve, you value the faster computer. Mathematica and solid edge are the two I use most, the former is no fun at all but the latter is brilliant if you can find someone to donate you a copy. I'm gradually migrating to autocad mechanical which is significantly better but much harder to use. The non-engineering use is that I'm very fond of running windows and linux simultaneously on different monitors through virtualbox, my e8400 coped fairly well with one extra OS, the i7 doesn't seem to care how many I run as long as f@h doesn't savage it. This would be an interesting thing to try if cad software proves difficult to source, install ubuntu 64 bit on your amd, put virtualbox on it and see how well it deals with two copies of vista running on top of ubuntu.
There's a good chance my computer is worth a higher fraction of my disposable income than most people, but it makes a big enough impact on my course that I don't mind.
Do you actually get people that use their PC's mostly for encoding??
I'm confused by this too, these forums really do suggest people do this. I find it hard to believe though, unless it's used professionally I can't imagine there's that much data to encode. I set up a thread
here to try to work this one out.
Your post's are overlong and you repeat yourself all the time.
And you lack self esteem.
The latter is not an attack. Its an observation.
Treading dangerously close to arguing against Wayne rather than against his posts here. I suspect Wayne to be every bit as confident as we are, his unwavering stance throughout this thread certainly suggests so. However his wording is chosen such that people don't feel intimidated, whereas yours appears to be chosen precisely for this effect. You're at least as repetitive as he is here. The main issue I suppose is that
he's right. By all means we can attack the question in the OP as ridiculous, but we can't argue with the conclusion. The X58 is not worth twice as much as the AMD 620. It's better yeah, but that's not so surprising. Until such point as one of us starts and maintains a "what's the best cpu/motherboard/ram combination for £x", we can't really claim the moral high ground here.
and beats the X4 620 everytime.
