>500m Wireless Options

The fresnel's only 10ft wide at 5GHz. Just watch out for that stuff growing really quickly in spring. The power line people will chop it back but they are obviously only doing that to ensure the lines stay clear.

I'd be more concerned about the baseline height of the shrubs, you're going to need to get the radios up as high as you possibly can. I'm also starting to think you might be better off with 2.4GHz radios with the vegetation in the way.

Have you plotted it out on here for a very rough guideline https://airlink.ubnt.com/#/
 
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My mortgage is absolutely maxed and given how long it took to secure it, I don't want to contact them unless I have to. The more I think about it now, the more I'm wondering whether to go the cable route. I already own a minidigger so that option is too difficult. I'll have a think.

The thing is, the wireless option is a very cheap option and I kind of just need something for the time being, with a view to come back to the cable option later down the line.

All the comments about vegetation, I've considered myself. I need to get an idea of how high I need to go at my end to clear the veg. I have a barn that is about 3 floors high at the pitch so that might help.

At 2.4ghz and width of 40mhz, the fresnel is at 1m. Surely that will make the gap.
 
A mate has just mentioned that the government have done some sort of deal with Sky and TalkTalk for delivery of fibre internet. I have no details, but you might inquire.
 
Larry365 said:
I need to get an idea of how high I need to go at my end to clear the veg. I have a barn that is about 3 floors high at the pitch so that might help.
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You mean you haven't yet checked? Best thing you can do is get on the roof of that thing with a pair of binoculars and see what you can see. A pole attached to the barn will give you more height, with a 3 story barn you could probably get away with a monster of a pole on that.
 
Steveocee said:
You mean you haven't yet checked? Best thing you can do is get on the roof of that thing with a pair of binoculars and see what you can see. A pole attached to the barn will give you more height, with a 3 story barn you could probably get away with a monster of a pole on that.
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We don't get the keys till Tuesday so there's only so much I've been able to do. Yeh, should be able to get something substantial. The roof and gable end are asbestos which makes things a bit difficult.
 
Following with interest!

Just moved into a house along the road from family and considering bonding two fiber lines and sharing between us.

We actually own connecting land between us but the setup means it's 110m via ground or 60m by air.

Easily have enough CAT6 STP cable to hand but the route and work would be a lot to do. Over the air would be more elegant if it was affordable.

EDIT: Lawl, just reread first post, also moved from 150Mb Virgin to 5Mb ADSL but meant to be getting fiber soon. You see they're double Virgin speeds again!?! Gawd! :)
 
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Larry365 said:
Its 500m away across two fields. It's something I considered. I own a mini digger so I could get the trench dug at cost. The cost of the cable would be >£800 and thats just the standard stuff. Armoured cable must be at least half again.

If I find after a few months that this wireless solution is not working for me when I will probably go down this route.
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Surely just stick a duct in instead and run cabling through it or stick a duct in and ask VM to run cable through it..
 
rah^ said:
Surely just stick a duct in instead and run cabling through it or stick a duct in and ask VM to run cable through it..
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lude1962 said:
quick look he'd need telecoms grade I'd expect, comes in 2000m drums :eek:
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What cable are you going to run over 550m?

If he installed Ducting then you could run Loose Tube OM3 Fibre, halving the cost vs Armoured Fibre.


sunlitsix said:
Have you looked into satellite broadband at all?
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The Latency is ridiculous, even for just web browsing the added latency is annoying - Streaming video is ok, but for Skype or gaming then pretty much forget it.
 
So the issue with running any sort of wire is getting the wire buried. This would require permission from 3 land owners, digging through woodland and going deep enough to avoid ploughs. There is also the cost. Now VM did say to me "if you dig the trench, we'll be able to sort something out with the cable".. I need to get back to them and find out exactly what he meant by that. If they can supply the cable for free (maybe?) then it MIGHT be an option.

Anyway, I went back to the house today (don't move in till next week) and noticed another pole. I've created this little work of art to illustrate plan 2.0.

Is this a viable solution? assuming permission to mount and a power supply running to the pole. It will be mounted high so vehicles do not block signal. Bare in mind this is a very quiet country road with no more than about 10 cars per day. Can a signal be bounced like this and at this angle? If this is possible, are there any possible problems with this setup. I'm wondering whether two wire connected devices would need fitting on the BT pole, one facing transmitting and one facing received.

What do we all think?

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Caged said:
You won't get permission to use a BT pole.
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What they don't know won't hurt them ;)

The pole is for my house only. The bt line runs under the road then up that pole and over the road to my house. So they really have no reason to go there. I'll see how long I can get away for it. If they ask me to take it down then I'll just stick my own pole up on my side of the road. I'd just rather not have to pay for a pole. Time will tell.
 
It's up to you I suppose, if you believe you can get power to that pole safely (and keep it maintained so you don't expose anyone to risk) and are happy to be without internet the moment any fault is reported that requires access to that pole (because your stuff will be taken down, they won't be asking you and they won't give it back) then go for it.

If you run a power supply to the pole in an unsafe manner, or put stuff on it that causes issues for BT then they will come after you, and it won't be cheap.

https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/contactus/customernetworksolutions/openreachplant/orplant.do

Personally I'd just give up this idea of bouncing the signal off other people's property that you don't have permission to use.
 
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Yeah you might be right; I haven't made any final decisions yet. Its POE so will just be a case of running an ethernet across. I'm gonna make a bogus enquiry about it on Tuesday, see what the response is like. If its a flat out "no way" then I'll just have to risk it. As I said, the pole only serves my property so chances are slim.. but I do know where you're coming from. To add, I cant actually put up my own pole as I am in an "area of outstanding natural beauty". My grandad, a few miles away, got done for putting up a flag pole. Didn't get fined, just told to remove it. He appealed but they will not budge; its like trying to render a grade I listed building.. it aint gonna happen.
 
If going the wireless route you may want to take a look at Microtik devices. We use them at work for those clients not prepared to pay for Cisco gear and they work very well and they are very well priced.
 
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