>500m Wireless Options

Judging by your diagram your house and both of the potential Fibre BB houses are all close to the road.

With permission couldn't you just follow the road using shallow buried SWA fibre? Keeping just inside the hedge line it'd be safe from most things.
 
DrBombcrater said:
Overall I can sum up the Nanostations in one world: invisible. They just work, and work well. The built-in performance monitoring tools in the M5s report 100MBit/s throughput in each direction when saturating both send and receive channels, latency averages 1.4ms with occasional spikes up to 5ms. Packet loss is basically a handfull of packets a day - I'm pretty sure that's the result of birds flying in front of one of the M5s as this is a rural area with masses of avian residents that like to whizz past my front door where one of the Nanostations is located.

Weather hasn't been an issue at all. We've had torrential downpours and lightning and the connection hasn't missed a beat. The Nanostations have also been rock solid in terms of reliability, not once since they were installed have they needed any attention.

All in I paid about £150 for the two Loco M5s, mounting gear and the shielded Ethernet cables they need.
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That's pretty impressive. You get worse performance from Powerline kits!
 
OK I have done this, And i have reasonable experience. However my distance was MUCH further. 2.63KM to be exact. this was because my house at the time only had 1mb internet and the other side of town had Fibre. So we used two of these on T&K brackets on the house on a 8foot pole luckily we both where on hills so we had line of sight however it worked a treat. PM me if you want any further details but my ping was about 20ms to bbc.co.uk with it so was brilliant for gaming compared to the 1mb crud.
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Woah that's awesome! Is it affected by weather at all?
I remember in my last company one of the wifi engineers had some huge Cisco aerials (they looked like tube lights). He said that if he mounted it about 30ft on top of our building the signal would reach our office in central London (from just inside the M25)
 
traveyb said:
Woah that's awesome! Is it affected by weather at all?
I remember in my last company one of the wifi engineers had some huge Cisco aerials (they looked like tube lights). He said that if he mounted it about 30ft on top of our building the signal would reach our office in central London (from just inside the M25)
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Not at all it worked flawlessly in snow and thunderstorms. infact i dont remember it ever dropping to be fair. I also fly drones as one of my hobbies and i use 5.8ghz for my live video feed. With a patch panel on that i have seen 10km range possible line of sight. the problem with 5ghz and anything up that end of the spectrum is that it will not penetrate buildings etc very well so anything getting in the way will have an adverse affect.

The way i would play the game would be offer one of the locals free internet. Say you will pay the entire cost of their connection if you can use in and install your own router. then setup some QOS so your traffic has priority etc. this will only work if they are not to tech savy.
 
I'd rather 90%+ of the country got FTTC-level connections than the same amount of cash ensuring that random villages got 5Mbps.

BDUK has its flaws but it's generally achieving what it set out to do - and the clawback is seeing extra cash from the contract winner flow back to the government to waste however they see fit.
 
what amazed me is my house is just 5 years old, we live to an estate that had BT FTTC and also Virgin fibre. yet when they built the estate we had <1meg ADSL. but the houses 50 feet away had FTTC and VM yet it took 3 years for them to give us FTTC. stupid that VM or BT did not install fibre at the point of build.

Yes the guy supplied my internet for a couple of years on the 8down 2 up service, what spot on.
 
It's up to the developer to liaise with Openreach and/or Virgin to ensure their new builds have access to decent services. Many developers are incompetent or lazy and just build houses and then let Openreach dig everything up again later to put in phone lines.
 
You would think with the gov pushing so yard for fast broadband they would make it a requirement for all new builds to have it up and running asap.
 
I've had contracts with villages comprising of total new developments and the government do absolutely nothing to ensure decent infrastructure. There is a village nearby which has over 1000 new homes in it, built by 3 or 4 different developers. Apart from the main roads running through, not a single side road has been adopted by the council as they do not meet standards. The residents are now left with unmaintained roads, blown out street lamps and blocked drains.. but guess what, its all completely legal and the dev has no obligation to build these roads to a standard. They of course however do have to commit to some sort of maintenance contract with the residents, but at that point it becomes a civil matter and they face little consequence for not adhering to such contracts.

All the houses can also only receive <4mb adsl even though the main fibre line serving Lincoln runs half a mile away. The fibre network (VM?) has said they will not bring fibre to the village as it will cost too much at this stage. They would have however if it was discussed with them at the beginning of the development.

At the end of the day, the devs will do as little as they can get away with to maximise profit, obviously. It is up the the local authorities to enforce such things. Most local authorities are stuck in the previous century, not planning ahead for infrastructure and not updating planning laws to accommodate for modern designs and ways of building. To add, the devs have been given permission to extend the village another 500+ homes, despite all the issues they have caused. Some serious backhanders being dished out.

Anyway, breifly back to the topic,

I managed to chat with an Openreach engineer today. He had his head buried in a cab so I thought I'd jump out the car for a word. I didn't disclose my actually location but I gave him the full low down on the pole; the fact it only serves my house etc. He said he knows of many situations where third party stuff is attached to them, from the exact equipment we are talking about here, to sky satellites. He said there is a channel to go through to request permission and it can be done. The only thing he said was that they have never had cables running along their own, they have always run up the pole, so couldn't comment on whether they would allow suspended cables fittings.

So it looks like I'll be going for permission after all. If they do say know, I'll stick a flag pole up, I'll just have to anchor it with some cables as I'm sure these devices do not tolerate much movement, if any.
 
Larry365 said:
I've had contracts with villages comprising of total new developments and the government do absolutely nothing to ensure decent infrastructure. There is a village nearby which has over 1000 new homes in it, built by 3 or 4 different developers. Apart from the main roads running through, not a single side road has been adopted by the council as they do not meet standards. The residents are now left with unmaintained roads, blown out street lamps and blocked drains.. but guess what, its all completely legal and the dev has no obligation to build these roads to a standard. They of course however do have to commit to some sort of maintenance contract with the residents, but at that point it becomes a civil matter and they face little consequence for not adhering to such contracts.

All the houses can also only receive <4mb adsl even though the main fibre line serving Lincoln runs half a mile away. The fibre network (VM?) has said they will not bring fibre to the village as it will cost too much at this stage. They would have however if it was discussed with them at the beginning of the development.

At the end of the day, the devs will do as little as they can get away with to maximise profit, obviously. It is up the the local authorities to enforce such things. Most local authorities are stuck in the previous century, not planning ahead for infrastructure and not updating planning laws to accommodate for modern designs and ways of building. To add, the devs have been given permission to extend the village another 500+ homes, despite all the issues they have caused. Some serious backhanders being dished out.

Anyway, breifly back to the topic,

I managed to chat with an Openreach engineer today. He had his head buried in a cab so I thought I'd jump out the car for a word. I didn't disclose my actually location but I gave him the full low down on the pole; the fact it only serves my house etc. He said he knows of many situations where third party stuff is attached to them, from the exact equipment we are talking about here, to sky satellites. He said there is a channel to go through to request permission and it can be done. The only thing he said was that they have never had cables running along their own, they have always run up the pole, so couldn't comment on whether they would allow suspended cables fittings.

So it looks like I'll be going for permission after all. If they do say know, I'll stick a flag pole up, I'll just have to anchor it with some cables as I'm sure these devices do not tolerate much movement, if any.
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It depends on the device. The one you would need would allow for movement before it becomes an issue. Now by movement I mean a few degrees either way and no it swinging from side to side! They are low power btw, so a few solar panel's could easily power them along side a battery.
 
We have progress!

The third party neighbour has agreed to an installation and a duplicate account has been set up. Now I just have to wait out the 4 TO 6 WEEK WAITING TIME!! that VM have quoted for connection.. apparently they have a lot of new home connections atm..

I will be ordering a pair of Nanobeam 5ac19 in the next couple of weeks, have them set up and tested prior to VM installing. I am going to be fitting my own pole as I have spoken with nearby residents and have had no objections. County planning also have no problems with a pole under 4.6m.

Thank you to everyone that has helped with this endeavour!
 
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