I thought all CRTs blured the frames so it seems smoother?
18.55 septillion Frames Per Second
according to google.
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5070 = 4090 for 499.
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according to google.
They have also lied before so we wont know until benchmarks i guessWe thought that nvidia might be hiding something with the 4090 pure rasterisation last time, because of the slides. It turned out not to be the case.
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You do though, there is a very visible look and feel when something is generated artificially.
If you dont notice a difference then I guess thats a net positive and this might be the card to get, but for me I'm weirdly hyper aware to it.
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Oof I just had a negative thought. If the 5000 series has improved it raytracing cores performance over the 4000 series then the likely pure raster performance might be even worse as the 2 examples shown both had rt on. I guess we'll see in a few weeks time, but the more I think on it the less impressive these look. 
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Oof I just had a negative thought. If the 5000 series has improved it raytracing cores performance over the 4000 series then the likely pure raster performance might be even worse as the 2 examples shown both had rt on. I guess we'll see in a few weeks time, but the more I think on it the less impressive these look.
Most games support DLSS now days so its not necessarily just dependant on RT being used.
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Electron beam refreshes 50 time a second, but the phosphor on the tube has a discharge delay.
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I could see people with fairly narrow cases having issues with PCI-E cables where it's along the top of the GPU, probably better to have it to the end of the GPU short side
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we need to remove RT from the conversation most people really do not care about it
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thats waht people said about Jordans Bristols, but paperboys all over the uk still enojyed her on page 3 when delivering the Sun at 6am every morning back in 1996................... just saying like................
Haha they also had built in frame gen
slower than both I would assume even with the smaller gen on gen increases the 4070 was on par with the 3080 and that's not counting new special tricks
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Thing that costs $599 has same performance as thing that cost $1,599?
If you believe that, I have a bridge I can sell you…
If you believe that, I have a bridge I can sell you…
Don't buy the marketing nonsense. They make this statement when considering DLSS4/frame gen.
However the real world is different; very few game actually implement these features properly, frame gen has a poor track record in recent games with sometimes giving games a "waxy" look as well as latency/input issues, some games outright crash or don't work at all with frame gen enabled.
In actual specifications it is ~40% above a 4070 which put its slightly above a 4070ti super and below a 4080, which is pretty sad. I think the 5070ti is the proper xx70 card and the 5070 exists only to try and upsell/price anchor mainstream consumers to the higher $749 price band.
We already know 12GB is not enough for 1440p games /w ray tracing, so these mainstream GPUs are improving less and less hardware wise and try to make up for it with the software features like DLSS to make it seem better than it actually is.
However the real world is different; very few game actually implement these features properly, frame gen has a poor track record in recent games with sometimes giving games a "waxy" look as well as latency/input issues, some games outright crash or don't work at all with frame gen enabled.
In actual specifications it is ~40% above a 4070 which put its slightly above a 4070ti super and below a 4080, which is pretty sad. I think the 5070ti is the proper xx70 card and the 5070 exists only to try and upsell/price anchor mainstream consumers to the higher $749 price band.
We already know 12GB is not enough for 1440p games /w ray tracing, so these mainstream GPUs are improving less and less hardware wise and try to make up for it with the software features like DLSS to make it seem better than it actually is.
but it will have the same performance as the old £999 part I would like to think
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I missed that! 20 - 25% with a generational RT boost really isn't the best look.Oof I just had a negative thought. If the 5000 series has improved it raytracing cores performance over the 4000 series then the likely pure raster performance might be even worse as the 2 examples shown both had rt on. I guess we'll see in a few weeks time, but the more I think on it the less impressive these look.