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5070 = 4090 for 499.

but we do not actually know this do we

chances are you right but other than a picture no one has a clue
The clue is in the specs, look at the cuda count and boost clocks, the 5090 will probably get a 30% uplift but for the rest its looking like 15-20%
 
I feel people are being out of line and judgemental just because somebody likes the idea of frame gen giving 4090 frame rates to lesser 50 series cards...

Frame gen can feel bad to some and fine for others.
I thought I would find it bad but I honestly like it on my 4090. I don't notice any lag or glitches from it and generally find it does what it's supposed to do.

Also, screaming "fake frames whaaa". Grow up.
What frames aren't fake? Fake pre-baked lighting, fake bump mapping, procedural landscape generation, fake upscaled textures. Every frame is full of fake elements so claiming frame gen is fake frames and acting like it's a deal breaker is straight up backwards. If somebody is not negatively effected by it and they get more enjoyment from their games from it, why is it a problem?
its really a dislike from me because the two important factors for comparing gpus are
1. how many fps
2. price

anything else makes that a harder judgement to make for comparisons
and imho all of these newer "technologies" (DLSS/FSR/frame gen/rtx etc) are much harder to compare for quality, down to subjective pixel comparison stuff that is very hard to judge

when you start up a new game and get 100 graphics options, its a bit of a nightmare to work out what you should set it all to for good performance / good visuals, all of this new stuff makes it even worse
then you factor in the fiddly stuff like that something adds mouse lag, or artificing etc or that its different results in different games that do or don't support things
it all becomes a right mess

fps for how much £ ! everything else is a sidenote
 
So realistically the 5070 will be £650 - £750 depending on the model, There is no way you will ever see that card at £499 if it is truly capable of 4090 performance.

I really wanted a 5070ti, but looking at what it could cost I might not be able to afford, I'm guessing that will start at the £850 - £1000 range.
Yeah with no FE edition for the 5070Ti.
 
So realistically the 5070 will be £650 - £750 depending on the model, There is no way you will ever see that card at £499 if it is truly capable of 4090 performance.

I really wanted a 5070ti, but looking at what it could cost I might not be able to afford, I'm guessing that will start at the £850 - £1000 range.
na they won't be that high lol, 499 dollars to £650 is a big strech i see founders being £550 and after market 550 - 650 ( top models)
 
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So realistically the 5070 will be £650 - £750 depending on the model, There is no way you will ever see that card at £499 if it is truly capable of 4090 performance.

I really wanted a 5070ti, but looking at what it could cost I might not be able to afford, I'm guessing that will start at the £850 - £1000 range.

The 5070ti is £729 on Nvidias website.

There might be a silly rush initially but I'd fully expect to be able to get one for around that price eventually. Forget the 3xxx series rush, that was due to mining.

The scalping and mark ups won't be anywhere near as bad this time around. The 4xxx series was readily available for RRP on the whole.
 
The 5070ti is £729 on Nvidias website.

There might be a silly rush initially but I'd fully expect to be able to get one for around that price eventually. Forget the 3xxx series rush, that was due to mining.

The scalping and mark ups won't be anywhere near as bad this time around. The 4xxx series was readily available for RRP on the whole.

Is that FE 5070ti ? If not good luck
 
Since Nvidia said this, it must be true. So if everyone could sell their 4090s for £450 on the members market I would appreciate it. Can’t be worth paying more for a 2 year old 70 tier GPU.
Haha!, in honesty though I think there will be a knee jerk reaction from some who will panic and sell their 4090s,4080s now for chump change.
If you watch the Gamers Nexus video Steve shows that Nvidia had FG on 40 Series, MFG (4X Mode) on 50 Series cards. So basically making 3 extra fps of "fakeness" per single frame. (I think the 5090 looks like a 4090 overclocked)
End of if people do sell their cards then theyre a tad silly to say the least. until real world figures and reviews are out its the usual crap Nvidia (and AMD) spout

Also did they cover what power sockets they are using for these cards? surely not the same as the 40 series?
 
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