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5800x now vs 5900x pre-order
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Personally I really doubt I would - as the performance difference in gaming I don't think would make a jot of discernable difference.
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That ultimately depends on how long until the 5900 is available to buy.
I think the longer time goes on, the less inclined I am to upgrade. I have a machine with a 3600 in that the 5800x would be put to good use in, though.
5800x always seemed like the logical choice really, no point spending extra on cores you don't need, unless you have money to burn.
It's a shame games are still largely dependent on clockspeeds and not addition cores, but that's unlikely to change any time soon.
It's a shame games are still largely dependent on clockspeeds and not addition cores, but that's unlikely to change any time soon.
I was number 12 in the que (from another place) for the 5900x. Glad I swapped for a 5800x now as it was a nice bit of money back to me considering I won't in the foreseeable future actually use the extra performance the 5900x would give.
I came from a 6600k, so a pretty good upgrade for me.
It's unlikely now I'd upgrade to a 5900 or 5950x,simply because I don't do any high CPU intensive tasks. Mainly gaming and 6 or 8 cores is more than enough for that. I see a lot of people who overspend on a 12 or 16 core CPU just for gaming and it's completely unnecessary. If you are planning on streaming or video editing etc, then absolutely get as many cores as you can afford, but don't buy a 12 or 16 core CPU for gaming, it's completely pointless
Yeah this is what I wasn't sure on, I was wondering if we would eventually see more core/thread utilisation over the next couple of years.
Yeah, I've since thought future proofing is a false economy. I guess by the time its required it will likely be dwarfed by newer tech.
My £380 OCUK 5800X should be arriving tomorrow or Friday
. As said above, benchmarks show that there is pretty much complete parity between them in gaming for the moment. At 1440p+ you are most likely going to be GPU limited anyway.
I won't be swapping it out for a 5900X though, which like others is what I was originally planning to buy.
Now that there is proper competition between AMD and Intel/Nvidia and progress being made.. I hope to upgrade sooner than I did this time round!
Yeah games are unlikely to utilise more than 8 cores for the foreseeable future and with the 5000 series being the last hurrah for the AM4 socket, I'll keep the 5800x for a good while then AMD will launch their next gen chipsets with DDR5, which is probably a year or so out I'd say. I think the word "futureproof" is pretty much impossible in the PC market.
Every few years a component comes along like Ampere GPUs for example that just blows away the competition and make older parts almost seem obsolete.
For me personally I game on a 27 1440p 165 hz monitor. I doubt I'll upgrade to a 4k monitor anytime soon as the difference on a 27 inch screen is pretty much non existent. So the 5800x and 3090 combination will probably last me 5 years easily. Although as always, I'm sure I'll be tempted in to some form of upgrade before then lol, probably the next gen Nvidia cards whenever they decide to release them.
Lets just hope these crazy stock shortages don't go on for much longer, I feel for anyone who's trying to build or upgrade right now. It's crazy.
I wonder if we will expect to see a 5800XT further down the road before the end of the life cycle?
I'll be holding on a while before I pull the trigger I think unless a decent deal miraculously appears of course.
I'm pretty sure AMD will do a refresh later on in the year and that should also trigger price drops on the current parts as I don't think we are getting a 5600 or 5700X anytime soon if at all.
That's cause of AMD's binning. The 5800x gets 1 "good" chiplet, both the 5900x and 5950x get 1 "good" chiplet and 1 "bad" chiplet.
The good chiplets can clock way higher than the bad ones. The good chiplet on my 5950x can do 5.2ghz, the bad one only does 4.7ghz
I would like to think I can hang fire for that but knowing me I'll dive in before they are announced.
My £380 OCUK 5800X should be arriving tomorrow or Friday
I was going to pull the trigger last week at that price but delayed. Guess I'll be holding off now they're back up to £420.
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Well to conclude this thread, I finally managed to place an order for a 5900x.
5800x will go in a second build, dedicated to sim racing. Win - win situation
5800x will go in a second build, dedicated to sim racing. Win - win situation
I did find a place to order a 5900X that says "shipping from 15th Feb" so i'll see what happens. Only giving it until the end of the month though, if there's no sign of one i'll get a 5800X. Tired of waiting for one now especially when i have all the other parts gathering dust.
Would be wary about any AMD AM4 purchase right now. Platform's at the end of its lifecycle - be better to hang fire until they launch next gen chipset and compatible CPUs in late 2021 or 2022. Intel are unfortunately in the same boat. 2 generations of CPUs on socket 1200, they've done their tock and tick, so should be a new platform in 2022.
4K gaming's out the window until there's better availability (and more realistic pricing) on NVidia 3080 or AMD 6800XT and above GPUs. 1440p is still the sweet spot for gaming, and is absolutely no problem getting ultra 1440p performance on most games, with even 2 or 3-year old CPUs. Why rush out for overpriced CPUs on platforms with poor future-proofing, when you can't get GPUs to make it worthwhile?
4K gaming's out the window until there's better availability (and more realistic pricing) on NVidia 3080 or AMD 6800XT and above GPUs. 1440p is still the sweet spot for gaming, and is absolutely no problem getting ultra 1440p performance on most games, with even 2 or 3-year old CPUs. Why rush out for overpriced CPUs on platforms with poor future-proofing, when you can't get GPUs to make it worthwhile?
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If you can't purchase a CPU because a new one might be along within a year, you'd never buy anything. It rarely pays to be an early adopter of a brand new platform, anyway.
I've ended up with two x570 boards, a 5800x , a 5900x and a 3090. I just need one more graphics card.
I'm sticking with my emergency 3600 until I can go 12 cores or better at a sane price. Up till now I've been on a 6600k, and either had VMs and things running, or a game. The 3600 struggles but a can do a few things and game, just.
The idea of 8 cores for the games, 3 for the servers and 1 the OS...??
I just can't wait. Watching supply closely.
The idea of 8 cores for the games, 3 for the servers and 1 the OS...??
I just can't wait. Watching supply closely.