5800x3d can definitely be had cheaper. Setup some price alerts and you can probably have one for 240
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5800x3D upgrade
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Performance to value for this chip is great st the moment. Long live AM4!!
The false economy of waiting to save £20 on a ~£251 CPU. That is if you go search for it.
If the price on your new CPU drops, so does the price you can get for your old used one. Since the announcement of the 5700X3D, used prices on older Ryzen AM4 chips have also dropped.
If you are on AM4 and want to upgrade to 5800X3D, they won’t get much cheaper any time soon.
If the price on your new CPU drops, so does the price you can get for your old used one. Since the announcement of the 5700X3D, used prices on older Ryzen AM4 chips have also dropped.
If you are on AM4 and want to upgrade to 5800X3D, they won’t get much cheaper any time soon.
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except the prices do and are currently going both down and up on the 5800x3d. Currently it's £263.20, it could be had for £234.99 literally a few weeks ago but you can't any longer. If you're in no rush just set up a price alert and wait. £30 i could spend elsewhere is nice
It has been around the £250 mark since about last Summer. Sometimes higher and sometimes lower but it is a fact that waiting to upgrade will not save you anything.
If you are building from scratch then AM4 is a dead end platform. So the vast majority of target customers are existing AM4 customers with existing Ryzen CPUs. If you plan to part finance your upgrade by selling your old CPU, then the new 5700X3D has lowered the resale value for your older Ryzen. So in reality you are not saving much if anything by holding out for a whopping £20 in savings.
Edit: I feel it fair to elaborate on what I mean by false economy if you plan to sell an older Ryzen to recoup costs.
I first thought of upgrading from a 5600X in April last year but thought the ~£290 asking price for the 5800X3D was too much. The 5600X was selling for about £160 new, so selling used would get me about £120 - £130 max. That left a difference of £160 - £170 for the upgrade.
I held out until Dec 2023 and got a 5800X3D for £260. So on the face of it I saved £30 by waiting 8 months. But the 5600X also dropped in price to about £130 new and I got £100 for it. Total cost for the upgrade was… drumroll… £160.
Or to put it simply, my false economy meant I missed out on 8 months of better gaming experiences and saved nothing financially.
If you are building from scratch then AM4 is a dead end platform. So the vast majority of target customers are existing AM4 customers with existing Ryzen CPUs. If you plan to part finance your upgrade by selling your old CPU, then the new 5700X3D has lowered the resale value for your older Ryzen. So in reality you are not saving much if anything by holding out for a whopping £20 in savings.
Edit: I feel it fair to elaborate on what I mean by false economy if you plan to sell an older Ryzen to recoup costs.
I first thought of upgrading from a 5600X in April last year but thought the ~£290 asking price for the 5800X3D was too much. The 5600X was selling for about £160 new, so selling used would get me about £120 - £130 max. That left a difference of £160 - £170 for the upgrade.
I held out until Dec 2023 and got a 5800X3D for £260. So on the face of it I saved £30 by waiting 8 months. But the 5600X also dropped in price to about £130 new and I got £100 for it. Total cost for the upgrade was… drumroll… £160.
Or to put it simply, my false economy meant I missed out on 8 months of better gaming experiences and saved nothing financially.
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I have a 3700x and a 3080 game at around 1440p on AAA and 4K on other none demanding games, However playing Alan Wake 2 at 1440p I seem to be either gpu bound or suspect cpu bottlenecked ( as someone mentioned on here) as I cannot hit 60fps in this game, currently deciding whether I need a 5080x3d as I don't have the cash to get a new cpu, mobo and memory which your talking nearer £800/£900 over £250
But I only game at 1440p or 4k and try to hit 60fps, I haven't really struggled with my 3700x but it does drop fps frequently and seems to be less stable and with AAA games getting more demanding and my 3080 will more than likely be a 1440p card will the upgrade be better for me regarding the next 2 years when I finally decide to get a new machine ?
But I only game at 1440p or 4k and try to hit 60fps, I haven't really struggled with my 3700x but it does drop fps frequently and seems to be less stable and with AAA games getting more demanding and my 3080 will more than likely be a 1440p card will the upgrade be better for me regarding the next 2 years when I finally decide to get a new machine ?
I don't plan on upgrading my gpu until the 5000 series are out or even a little while after
Broadly, a 3700X will bottleneck a 3080.
The new plaform difference isn't as big as you might think, I did the maths myself a few days ago. A 7600 is broadly as fast as a 5800X3D in a lot of things but not all, faster in other things - but your upgrade path opens up for the future.
A 5800X3D will cost you ~ £250 and you'll get about £80 for your 3700X so ~ £170 total
A 7600 + 32GB 6000 MT/s + a B650 will cost you ~ £430, maybe a bit less, you'd get ~ £150 back for your CPU/RAM/mobo depending on what they are = £280 total
It's an option.
The new plaform difference isn't as big as you might think, I did the maths myself a few days ago. A 7600 is broadly as fast as a 5800X3D in a lot of things but not all, faster in other things - but your upgrade path opens up for the future.
A 5800X3D will cost you ~ £250 and you'll get about £80 for your 3700X so ~ £170 total
A 7600 + 32GB 6000 MT/s + a B650 will cost you ~ £430, maybe a bit less, you'd get ~ £150 back for your CPU/RAM/mobo depending on what they are = £280 total
It's an option.
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I have a MSI Mag X570 Tomahawk
16gb Corsair Vengence rgb pro 3600
Well i can sell elsewhere you can currently get a AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D for £330 which obviously is more money haYMMV but as you can't sell on MM maybe ~ £250 (minus postage etc)
It's fairly close, of course you need to do the maths and sell the old kit but I'd be tempted
Just been rough estimating.
7600x, Msi vengence ddr5 and msi mag b650 £496 selling my stuff for middle prices on ebay might cost me £236 to upgrade
Or £360 for the 7800x3d
Or £180 just for the 5800x3d if i get £70 back from my 3700x
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I built a 7900X3D at the same time I upgraded my son’s 5600X to a 5800X3D. I had a 5900X and the 7900X3D is an improvement. But part of me wishes I had just went with a 5800X3D apart from the fact I do a lot of productivity.
The 7900X3D is faster of course, but not worth the massive difference in cost. If building from scratch I would see the logic, but as a cheap quick upgrade a 5800X3D is a seriously great VFM.
And if you can run the 5800x3d with a -30 CO then even better. I run mine with 101,125Mhz Fsb, -30CO PBO, PPT 114W,TDC75A,EDC115 and many times I see 4600Mhz boost avg 4500Mhz
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I upgraded yesterday, swapped my 3800x and dark rock pro for a 5800x3d and 240 aio, temps are 15ç lower during stress testing.
I run a 3080 with 3700x and the performance was pretty badly hamstrung. You’ll definitely pick up a graphics and CPU performance boost.