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7900x vs 2950x
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not sure how they config the 1900X, if only one ryzen die of 8 core working + quad channel ram then it might potentially slightly faster than ryzen mainstream. But if there are 2 dies with 4 core each die and connected via IF then it's the worst, won't be faster than normal ryzen and inherits ton of latency.Hmmm.....I'll have to take a look at that. Fifty fps, as you say, is more than a 'bit'.
I'm hoping the 2920X will be at a tempting price, if not, then maybe the 1920 - 1950X's.
Is there any reason to get the 2700X over the 1900X? Apart from the cache and clock speeds, is there any real world difference? Quite a difference in price at the mo.
I would never buy the 1900x since its not worth it if you count the motherboard price and ram. TR platform is great for high core count, low core count => AM4 all the way.
No to the 1900X, unless you want ECC memory support the 2700X is better.
The 1900X has 64 PCIe lanes, that's two dies, 32 on each die, so it will as you explain "inherits ton of latency"
The 1900X has 64 PCIe lanes, that's two dies, 32 on each die, so it will as you explain "inherits ton of latency"
but a Threadripper at 4.00Ghz is very good in gaming from all the reviews i have seen, ok its not 8700k at 5.2Ghz but its still decent enough that if you need the extra cores, iks a good trade off Or if gaming is really that important to you then buy the 9900K about to be released.
I think there is a 7900x in the members market right now for sale I am sure you can get a good price for it if you are quick.
I think there is a 7900x in the members market right now for sale I am sure you can get a good price for it if you are quick.
1900x games quite nicely, 2xxx will be even better as the boost clocks will be higher and more cores will boost. Latency impact is not bad at all. I've never been left wanting for more game performance and mine is first gen which I don't even bother to overclock.
With respect, you are using a 480. A card that wasn't fast when it was released 2 years ago. An i3 could push that.
I have 2 1080Tis, it does OK, newer TRs will be faster still due to much better boost algorithms.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/16050392/fs/15537877
480 was a temp card to test build after offloading 3x 290x, its actually not a bad card, can mix with a 1060, still have it in another machine..
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Hmmm.....I'll have to take a look at that. Fifty fps, as you say, is more than a 'bit'.
I'm hoping the 2920X will be at a tempting price, if not, then maybe the 1920 - 1950X's.
Is there any reason to get the 2700X over the 1900X? Apart from the cache and clock speeds, is there any real world difference? Quite a difference in price at the mo.
The only reason would be for the TR4 platform and the upgrade routes that offers.
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@smogsy what resolution do you game at btw? as that has a huge impact on CPU utilisation, if your gaming 1440p or 4k then the CPU is less relevant as you know when gaming, as the GPU is bearing the brunt of the work, which means your CPU resources are much more able to be put to work on other more intensive bits.
Im guessing your either 1080p or 1440p though and not 4k.
The 9900k should not even be considered for you, at the minimum your going to want a 7900K or TR 2nd gen i reckon. No point swapping to another 8/16 chip that has better IPC, as your still going to be limited in your overall task set, if your already struggling on an 8/16.
Id look at the 7900 and TR 2nd Gen, then work out what kinda budget you need for both setups, if you have a set overall budget you can work out what savings on one will enable you to add on the other.
Im guessing your either 1080p or 1440p though and not 4k.
The 9900k should not even be considered for you, at the minimum your going to want a 7900K or TR 2nd gen i reckon. No point swapping to another 8/16 chip that has better IPC, as your still going to be limited in your overall task set, if your already struggling on an 8/16.
Id look at the 7900 and TR 2nd Gen, then work out what kinda budget you need for both setups, if you have a set overall budget you can work out what savings on one will enable you to add on the other.
1440p 144hz or 4K 60hz (both gsync)
Everything depends on your usage or update profile as to whether X399 is worth it for you, for me CPU has never been too important, just had to be good enough which Ryzen chips are but the platform had to have scope for expandability, so when I had and i7 machine it had to have a PLX chip such that I could run many GPUs etc, these days I run less GPUs but now hard drives have shifted away from the SATA bus to PCIe so I wanted more scope for upgrades there too along with at least 2 GPUs, I already have 4x NVMe drives, that’s 16 lanes used up right there before the 32 for GPUs.
X470 or Intel alternative platform had no future scope for my use case, entry to TR4 platform was cheap enough about the same as similar chip and board with appropriate lanes from Intel but would allow me scope for future upgrades, sure for my chip there is extra latency over x1800 but at the same time my chip boosts to higher clks, boost more cores and has higher base clock under full load, so its swings and roundabouts really. TR2 is even better on the clocks and boosts front.
I also have the option to just drop in another 48 threads if I wanted/needed to, though I am fine with the 8C/16T of the 1900X for now.
TR platform is not a bad choice at all, you can also run Dual channel too if you don’t need the bandwidth so save some dough, you don’t need to populate 4 Dimms.
Personally though I would not buy untill all chips have been released and the prices have come down, shouldn't take long, I reckon there will be some deal Black Friday timeframe.
X470 or Intel alternative platform had no future scope for my use case, entry to TR4 platform was cheap enough about the same as similar chip and board with appropriate lanes from Intel but would allow me scope for future upgrades, sure for my chip there is extra latency over x1800 but at the same time my chip boosts to higher clks, boost more cores and has higher base clock under full load, so its swings and roundabouts really. TR2 is even better on the clocks and boosts front.
I also have the option to just drop in another 48 threads if I wanted/needed to, though I am fine with the 8C/16T of the 1900X for now.
TR platform is not a bad choice at all, you can also run Dual channel too if you don’t need the bandwidth so save some dough, you don’t need to populate 4 Dimms.
Personally though I would not buy untill all chips have been released and the prices have come down, shouldn't take long, I reckon there will be some deal Black Friday timeframe.
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1920x is a great buy though at 359.99 surely
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Then really your GPU and Screen are going to hide 99% of any CPU performance dips in all honesty. Id probably lean towards TR as Zen2 will be along next year also meaning you could even sell the current TR 2nd Gen chip and drop in a TR 3rd Gen on 7nm for even more performance. Intel wont be ready on 10nm HEDT for a long long time, so AMD *should* take the lead in that respect quite early as well.
just wait for new intel chips.going the amd route will have you swapping again to the intel better set up. i already seen how you like to swap and change and gaming at the top end their in no comparison to intel.especially on high hz monitors.
some low end i5s beat top end amd stuff. nevermind higher end. or newer intels to come.
some low end i5s beat top end amd stuff. nevermind higher end. or newer intels to come.
But back in the real world AMD is just a better option.
if you gaming more than anything you should be looking at intel with a high end card. especially on a high hz monitor. regardless of the amd price drops. look at the new battlefield for eg. top of the charts cpu wise. a lowly i5. lol. gaming you choose intel. if you do other stuff which takes advantage of the amd options. consider them but just mainly gaming.intel is the only reasonable option.
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If I was doing a gaming build and a productivity build, it'd be 8600k gaming 2950x productivity