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7970 vs 680 thread.

Well you know what to do, start a 680 users thread, hopefully all the BS fanboy talk will be kept to a minimum, otherwise suspensions will fly.

I started this thread so that any debate or VS type arguments could take place here.

That way the two or three "Did you order a 680? if so post here !" and "Post your 680 stuff here" etc would remain that way.

Because woe betide had I set foot in there and voiced my concerns and opinions I would have been labelled a troll.

Personally I think this thread has been perfectly fine. The truth has come out, and at the end of the day there really is nothing between the cards (thankfully three to four websites have covered it properly) and so we've been discussing other things.

All I can do, I guess, is just repeat. If you don't like the idea of actually sitting down and discussing it and you want to have a totalitarian black and white thread about the 680 then this isn't the place to have it.

Around two years ago I pretty much stopped using all forums. Mostly because I found that others were not capable of sitting down and discussing things openly and honestly and would often cop the nut ache and throw a strop. So, I just chatted to people on Facebook as I know them personally and thus it never ends in insults and arguments.

A forum is about discussion. Without the discussion you have nothing. Just tumbleweeds.

It's quite amazing and worrying just how many people out there though support ideology and wish for a forum where they all just sit around and agree with each other.
 
If you mean - Do I feel that Nvidia are very clever and shrewd and have a brainwashed bunch of followers? then yes, guilty as charged, slap me on ignore.

This ridiculous comment does indeed get you on ignore.

A tech company introduces new tech that is different to their competition that has tangible benefits and it all of a sudden makes them shrewd operators aiming to brainwash the market. What people decide to buy and why is ENTIRELY up to them. If you have a problem with reviewers take it up with them and aim it at them.

You are totally nuts, you are like a religious zealot.
 
There is a stark difference between discussing something and arguing mate. Arguing usually results in heavy usage of the word troll, complete with psychiatric evaluations and at times, flat out insults.

I'm no kid. Infact, I'm closing in on 39 years old. At this time in life I am able to have a discussion without resorting to insulting people.

You will note that there has been some very worthwhile open and honest discussion in this thread. Some things people won't agree on, but that's fine. If we all agreed on one thing then.......

We would all have Ipads and Geforce cards.

And the world would be incredibly dull and predictable.

I never said you were a kid, or that you were insulting people, though as said likening people who use Nvidia to Apple fans is pushing it though, as you know that will wind some people up.

Ironically, i tried an ipad2 for the first time the other day, was surprised as for the money there isn't a tablet that comes near it.

I've read just about every review, and came to the conclusion that both are very good cards, and so near in price and performance that picking which is all down to which brand you prefer, or if you have no brand preference then which one has the best features.

People who sold the 7970 to get a 680 were more than likely Nvidia fans on a temporary trip to the other side, i doubt anyone was convinced it was a massively better card.
 
I never said you were a kid, or that you were insulting people, though as said likening people who use Nvidia to Apple fans is pushing it though, as you know that will wind some people up.

Ironically whenever I rip on Apple fans on Facebook they all tend to come out in droves. Even though what I usually say is completely correct.

The truth sometimes hurts. Sometimes it rubs people up the wrong way as it's not what they want to hear. Cue my mate, who queued up outside a shop for a nice handwarmer (Ipad 3 or whatever the damn name is).

He now refuses to accept that his device has heat issues, nor that half of what they have bolted on to it is all pointless tat. Nor that my Ipad 1 can run games equally as well as the Ipad 2 he just sold to get an Ipad 3.

If you know any Nvidia owners who would sell a card six weeks after paying £430 to replace it with an AMD one that was equal to it? then I am all ears.

Only Nvidia can make people do that. And don't worry, I'm not bashing on or insulting any one because it's just how it is. And yes, it's very similar to the way Apple have this hold on people.

I'm certainly not tarring every one with the same brush of course, because I myself am a bit of a closet Nvidia fan. I must say I do like the hype. However, I don't like it when they bend the truth. And that is what I feel they have done with the 680.

By now any one still reading this thread will have noticed the several links, reviews and articles which state that the 680 is equal level with the 7970.

By now any one who truly believes that not to be so will have chucked a strop and stopped reading it, and quite possibly has me on ignore.

Ironically, i tried an ipad2 for the first time the other day, was surprised as for the money there isn't a tablet that comes near it.

I bought a Hannspree Hannspad and dropped it 6 days after buying it, breaking it :(

Mate of mine showed me his Ipad 1, fell in love. Look, I'm not saying they aren't good, just like I am not saying that Nvidia 680s are not good. However, what I do know is that Ipads are bloody expensive ! And, each one has been perfectly fine and you really don't need to rush out and buy the next one.

What does the Ipad 2 have over the Ipad 1? dual core graphics ! wow. So there's a dual core GPU that isn't programmed to work with any games because the single cored Ipad 1 still exists. It has a camera ! wow. So I shall throw my Sony in the bin and go and buy an Ipad 2 !

Fact is that as much as Apple want me to believe that my Ipad is worthless and rush out and buy an Ipad 2/3/4/5 it isn't. It does everything I wanted it to, and has since I got it.

As public Enemy once said - Don't believe the hype.

I've read just about every review, and came to the conclusion that both are very good cards, and so near in price and performance that picking which is all down to which brand you prefer, or if you have no brand preference then which one has the best features.

People who sold the 7970 to get a 680 were more than likely Nvidia fans on a temporary trip to the other side, i doubt anyone was convinced it was a massively better card.

They fell for it. Yet, had a trustable well viewed review site had been more honest they wouldn't have fallen for it.
 
LOL at ALXAndy trying to justify his 7970 purchase, Jesus Christ man give it a rest.

I do wonder what was the point in you buying a high end video card? as you seem to spend your entire life on these forums doing what you do best.....trolling.
 

It's moronic posts like that that caused this thread.

As for giving it a rest?

Coupe - why don't you give it a bloody rest.

If you don't like the thread then go post in one you do. God, if ever there was such a thing as a forum troll they're coming out in force tonight !

If like old Greggypoos above you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalala" go and do it elsewhere and stop bloody moaning.
 
Apparantly according to Andy, everysingle review is a lie. Anand are liars, toms are liars, bit tech are liars, tech power up are liars, hardware canuks are liars, hexus are liars, because everyone of them have firmly concluded with solid testing that the GTX680 is currently the fastest card you can get.

Wait, and wasn't Andy saying stuff about insulting and calling people trolls being bad for this thread or something?
 
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Apparantly according to Andy, everysingle review is a lie. Anand are liars, toms are liars, bit tech are liars, tech power up are liars, hardware canuks are liars, hexus are liars, because everyone of them have firmly concluded with solid testing that the GTX680 is currently the fastest card you can get.

I dont think hes disputing the results at all. Hes just saying that the reviews seem really biased as they are not really showing what each card is really capable off. Its plainly obvious when you unlock the potential of the 7970 as most users of this kind of card would do that theres nothing between the 2 cards. Anyone disputing this fact is either an nv fanboi or just plain in denial. The evidence to support this is all over the internet to see.

Even before the gtx680 was released all the reviews said that one of the best features of the 7970 were its overclocking potential. So where was this overclocking potential in the reviews. It was no where to be seen. I am sure in the next few weeks we will get to see this very topic.
 
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Apparantly according to Andy, everysingle review is a lie. Anand are liars, toms are liars, bit tech are liars, tech power up are liars, hardware canuks are liars, hexus are liars, because everyone of them have firmly concluded with solid testing that the GTX680 is currently the fastest card you can get.

According to you since the GTX 680 was launched overclocking is no longer important. Because, what you believe in goes.

So that means that all reviews of the 680 should be against a 7970 that isn't overclocked because that doesn't matter to you any more because you have become a hypocrite overnight.

You see, there are reviews out there that have compared the cards equally and fairly.

Yet, you just don't want to hear it. You accuse me of not reading the reviews when actually, mate, I have read all of them.

Even the completely fair and unbiased ones where they declare neither card a clear winner, as they are both equal at equal clocks.

And unlike you I won't allow myself to become a hypocrite and rant and rave about how unfair reviews are wonderful.

If any one is trying to justify their purchases around here it's the people who went out and bought the 680.

They want to sit in a corner and beam with pride and come on the forum bragging about how amazing and wonderful their cards are, re-reading over the reviews of them.

So I'm sorry that you don't like this thread. And I'm sorry that you seem incapable of reading a review that puts the cards up to each other fairly, but there's not a lot I can do about it.

Now do us all a favour and grow up. If you don't like this thread and the opinions and reviews posted in it, don't read it. I haven't gone around trolling the 680 line up threads have I?

No. At least I remain you know? not a hypocrite.


They shouldn't be reading these threads, they should be busy playing games on their new purchase! :D

Where is the fun in that? they want to come on here and gleefully boast and brag about how wonderful their cards are and how much better they are than other people's.

And they just don't want to hear, nor care about what others have to say, because they all want to gather in a circle and group hug !
 
Lol at the over clocking bull crap again. That is all.

Comparing a stock to stock card is completely fair. TBH the GTX680 doesn't over clock itself to cheat, it simply runs in an under clocked mode and ramps up to its full speed if needed, a wonderful powersaving feature.
 
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I had admiration for the guys who bought a 7970 and would never try to anger them by slagging off their purchases even before they have had it a day.

For some reason ALXAndy has made it a mission to try and destroy the 680 and any review site that has the 680 beating the 7970 is wrong and biased and nvidiots and what ever else he can berate them with but you get a site that puts the 7970 ahead and this is a legit review....

I feel all of us who have treated ourselves with our money to a 680 can enjoy hassle free gaming for along while.

I wont resort to flaming or trolling but instead enjoy reading what others have to say. I feel chuffed to bits playing BF3 in all it's glory with really smooth frame rates.
 
I had admiration for the guys who bought a 7970 and would never try to anger them by slagging off their purchases even before they have had it a day.

For some reason ALXAndy has made it a mission to try and destroy the 680 and any review site that has the 680 beating the 7970 is wrong and biased and nvidiots and what ever else he can berate them with but you get a site that puts the 7970 ahead and this is a legit review....

I feel all of us who have treated ourselves with our money to a 680 can enjoy hassle free gaming for along while.

I wont resort to flaming or trolling but instead enjoy reading what others have to say. I feel chuffed to bits playing BF3 in all it's glory with really smooth frame rates.

You are flaming and you are trolling.

OK? Me and Cat was having a bloody good convo earlier and discussing some very interesting things, then you turned up.

You haven't read the thread, and you haven't looked at the reviews of the card that put it up fairly and squarely against the 7970. One of them was clock for clock, completely ruining the "but not all 7970s clock the same !" argument.

You come in here telling me I am showing myself up when it's YOU who is doing that. You are incapable of seeing hearing nor accepting the truth.

So before you come in here thinking you can belittle me have a good look at yourself. Because I promise you when the euphoria dies down you're going to look really, really silly.


Lol at the over clocking bull crap again. That is all.

Comparing a stock to stock card is completely fair. TBH the GTX680 doesn't over clock itself to cheat, it simply runs in an under clocked mode and ramps up to its full speed if needed, a wonderful powersaving feature.


So LOL at all the overclocking crap? You know what, I might even put that quote in my sig. Just to remind you of it every day for the rest of your life.
 
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