7970 vs 680 thread.

[dave_beast]

I really want to see the 680 owners smash my results to pieces.....

I chose these 2 benches as they're set, there's no different map or scenario like BF3 or Dirt3, they're set.

3DMARK11 on my everyday overclock

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2987891

P10116 3DMarks

Heaven 3.0 at standard OcUK settings on my everyday overclock

..... AInt gonna happen though, as the 680 is a stock overclocked screamer and the 7970 was underclocked at stock. Last laugh goes to AMD who still have the most powerful single GPU.

 

[oweneades]

I can't believe that people actually paid £500+ for a 7970. They must be mad as hell right now :0

Indeed, especially as the vast majority of cards were under £500 at launch....

I paid £416 for mine at launch...

I do love how people automatically assume a review is biased if it doesn't match what they expect. Of course they ignore that each review is different. A different section of a game can give wildly different results. Benchmarking for 60 seconds can give different results to benchmarking for 5 minutes etc.

 

[kitch9]

Lol are you having a laugh. The gtx680 is the best card since the 9700pro. This card is not anywhere near on par with the 8800gtx/1900xtx/6800ultra/4870 and theres more i could mention. It brings less performance to the table over the old gen than the cards i mentioned and is only on par with the 7970 where overclocking is concerned. Its not even a compute card so offcourse its gonna use less power and be smaller than amds card.

It uses 20-30 watt less power but it has 2 fewer GDDR5 chips that would have used 10-15 watt a piece, and a smaller less power hungry memory bus.

Amazing, lets all fap to our NV overlords!

Seriously, its a decent card, but nothing spectacular when you consider they had a target to hit. Both AMD and NV seem to perform similarly when clocked, but with both some cards will clock better than others. Price is too high on both.

 

[kitch9]

LOL what BS.

I stick with Anandtech for my reviews. They seem to write reviews that suit my thinking

Fixed that for you.... Its daft to stick to one site as finding one without any kind of agenda is going to be difficult.

 

[Besty]

Dave Beast - 3DMark too boring, I think we should stick to Crysis, its more fun :>

 

[Mal X]

the only thing you can say for sure is :- you're a bloody fool if you buy now, whatever the card you're after.

because in 4 months time this GTX 680 in standard trim, will be superceeded by quite a few cards, plus be much cheaper........ i've notived this every year since gaming....there's even a 4GB version of this card due out next month.... lol

 

[Mal X]

I can't believe that people actually paid £500+ for a 7970. They must be mad as hell right now :0

yes just like i'll laugh at you in 3 months time when you buy this 680 right now ....... so it goes both ways doesn't it !

 

[555BUK]

I wonder what card sold/sells most units within it's first week? There seems to be a lot of 680's going out-of-stock or pre-order at the moment. One place who listed 40+ Palit cards yesterday has just a couple left now. I don't remember 7900 numbers dropping so fast, but perhaps they had more stock to begin with.

Also, OcUK don't seem to have sold many 7900's since yesterday. I guess the 680 cannot be that bad.

The only main benefit the 7900 has is 3GB VRAM. This may be/become very important for people who game at extremely high resolutions. Otherwise, the 680 wins or atleast ties on just about every feature and measure.

 

[Mal X]

I wonder what card sold/sells most units within it's first week? There seems to be a lot of 680's going out-of-stock or pre-order at the moment. One place who listed 40+ Palit cards yesterday has just a couple left now. I don't remember 7900 numbers dropping so fast, but perhaps they had more stock to begin with.

Also, OcUK don't seem to have sold many 7900's since yesterday. I guess the 680 cannot be that bad.

The only main benefit the 7900 has is 3GB VRAM. This may be/become very important for people who game at extremely high resolutions. Otherwise, the 680 wins or atleast ties on just about every feature and measure.

yes the 680 wins but only until AMD release something new, or someone releases a better version of this card.

 

[inSilica]

yes the 680 wins but only until AMD release something new, or someone releases a better version of this card.

Something tells me the first comeback from AMD will be drivers (we know how these can change game performance and we also know NVIDIA on consensus release more optimized drivers) followed by their next card.

Though I strongly believe NVIDIA is packing something in the closet, as does ATI.

This just never ends

 

[LeJosh]

The review sites that actually OC the 7970 there is such a small difference that you should just get whatever you want tbh.

 

[Locky]

Last laugh goes to AMD who still have the most powerful single GPU.

lols

 

[layte]

I really want to see the 680 owners smash my results to pieces.....

How's about you post some real world game numbers rather than artificial tosh that just so happen to be the best case scenario for 7970 owners. Vantage and 3dMark only results... How quaint.

I remember just after the 480's launched I did a huge number of different game benchmarks on my cards just so a few vocal AMD owners would either put up or shut up (I remember one particular guy, kept banging on about how his pair of 5970's beat anything, went a bit quiet after I went to all the trouble of benching a pile of games)

 

[Mal X]

Something tells me the first comeback from AMD will be drivers (we know how these can change game performance and we also know NVIDIA on consensus release more optimized drivers) followed by their next card.

Though I strongly believe NVIDIA is packing something in the closet, as does ATI.

This just never ends

whatever i buy will cost loadsa dosh, because i know i'll end up going crazy
but this is a new card so things are likely to change far more in the next 3 months than in the previous 3.......i think you'll find we'll see fireworks, because the rumours are that AMD are about to release a better version of the 7970!..... but i'm not sure, maybe hype only, i've been surfing the web like crazy today so i'm reading quite a lot of odd stuff

 

[southpark]

Perhaps it is better to wait till August when the first nvidia flagship GK110 will be released. It is supposed to be around 40-50% faster than 680. If you have not upgraded yet, just wait a bit longer to get a real monster. The only downfall: the price range should be 650-700$

 

[dave_beast]

Heaven and 3DMARK11 stress the cards way more than any game, still can't see any Keplers in here to beat my score....

You know why?

Because they can't, because Kepler is overclocked mid range derp.

 

[bhavv]

3Dmark is widely considered to be the absolute worst method to compare GPU performance. According to that, theres no difference between a 6970 and GTX 580 either, yet the GTX 580 completely smashes the 6970 in almost everysingle game out there.

Kepler is overclocked mid range awesomeness that PWNs AMD's high end derp.

Fixed that for you. Also Kepler isnt just limited to the GK104, Nvidia simply didnt bother with releasing the real GTX 680 because it was so good they can save it until its needed.

 

[dave_beast]

3Dmark is widely considered to be the absolute worst method to compare GPU performance. According to that, theres no difference between a 6970 and GTX 580 either, yet the GTX 580 completely smashes the 6970 in almost everysingle game out there

Fixed that for you. Also Kepler isnt just limited to the GK104, Nvidia simply didnt bother with releasing the real GTX 680 because it was so good they can save it until its needed.

Oh, cause my 7970 smashes the results in nearly all the nerfed benchmarks from Nvidia fanboiiss, pretty much all of them except for a few honest sites.

There was a discussion on OCN where 7970 owners were going to sell their 7970's based on the 680 reviews, then they tested their cards and realised their cards we're better than the nerfed ones on old drivers in the reviews.
Believe what you will, IDK, but the 7970, when clocked to an everyday clock spanks the 680.

I await the 680 boys and girls to beat my industry respected benchmarks.

And likewise the 7980 that AMD is holding back

 

[555BUK]

I am sure fans on both sides can agree that overall performance is pretty much the same for both cards, at stock and overclocked. Prices are also the same, so the only differences are what colour you prefer (green vs red), whether the 3GB on the 7970 matters to you, or whether NVidia's extra features (Physx, 3DVision, turbo boost) rock your boat.

Is one card better than the other? The answer is yes, but it differs dependent upon your priorities. For me the 680 looks better (various reasons), but I appreciate why some would prefer the 7970. Both are good, yet both are overpriced. My biggest issue with either is the price.

 

[elrasho]

I am sure fans on both sides can agree that overall performance is pretty much the same for both cards, at stock and overclocked. Prices are also the same, so the only differences are what colour you prefer (green vs red), whether the 3GB on the 7970 matters to you, or whether NVidia's extra features (Physx, 3DVision, turbo boost) rock your boat.

Is one card better than the other? The answer is yes, but it differs dependent upon your priorities. For me the 680 looks better (various reasons), but I appreciate why some would prefer the 7970. Both are good, yet both are overpriced. My biggest issue with either is the price.

+1 for this post, totaly agree.