85 year old woman mauled to death in her own garden

I think it's a good idea to ban more dogs. I live near a park and I regularly see dogs running around outside of the control of the owner. Where the owner is repeatedly shouting its name and the dog is ignoring them. These are "middle class" owners too. I've never been convinced by the argument of it being just training, especially when fighting and hunting is etched into their DNA.
 
A certain type of person selectively breeds aggressive dogs for illegal purposes mainly.
Have you seen the pit bull / grey hound cross or lurcher cross?
Utterly terrifying beasts.
Pit bulls are actually quite sober compared with sight hounds like grey hounds.
The two mixed is pretty terrifying.

"Bull hounds" were all the rage in the valleys a few years back.

Worst cross I ever saw was an English bull terrier with an alsation. It was the ugliest animal I have seen, and very intimidating.
 
Horrible news.

Dog breeds aren't the problem, it's dog owners. I have a staff which many people fear cause of his breed yet no one who knows him does, however he is a big softie and my two cats could probably do more damage than him if they wanted.

Any dog just needs training. I think it should be made law a dog must have some form of training too many owners don't do it
 
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Little to do with the breed, more to do with the conditions. Being kept in a shed?

Scum

Already said this in another dog thread.

All dog owners before they get a dog should have to buys license to own one which has a substantial up front cost to cover future defaulters and a yearly fee to run the administration and deployment of a dog welfare service. Same goes for cats any other pet which cannot live inside a home 24/7.

So say it's £1k up front and £500 a year. More for dog breeders they need to pay £5k up front and £2000 a year.

For that you get regular random visits to check in on the dog(s) and their health and wellbeing as well as living conditions.

If you fail to improve conditions when warned by the inspectors which you will have a week to do the dog gets taken off you and you still need to pay the £500 a year towards the service until the dogs 15th birthday.

If upon inspection the dog treats the inspector in a overly aggressive manner, dog gets taken away.

Yes I know good owners will get caught up in this. But there are too many bad owners and breeders. Needs proper regulation.

The amount of dog poo littered everywhere proves this. There is an owner round here that spends her full time on her phone walking her dog. Glued to Instagram or whatever and the dog just does whatever it wants wherever it wants.

The whole dog market is far too big in this country. The fact shelters are full of them is proof of this. I'd argue for every one decent owner there is likely to be a poor one, a bad one and a dangerous one especially in deprived areas where the dangerous numbers will be rife compared with non existent in affluent areas.
 
Already said this in another dog thread.

All dog owners before they get a dog should have to buys license to own one which has a substantial up front cost to cover future defaulters and a yearly fee to run the administration and deployment of a dog welfare service. Same goes for cats any other pet which cannot live inside a home 24/7.

So say it's £1k up front and £500 a year. More for dog breeders they need to pay £5k up front and £2000 a year.

For that you get regular random visits to check in on the dog(s) and their health and wellbeing as well as living conditions.

If you fail to improve conditions when warned by the inspectors which you will have a week to do the dog gets taken off you and you still need to pay the £500 a year towards the service until the dogs 15th birthday.

If upon inspection the dog treats the inspector in a overly aggressive manner, dog gets taken away.

Yes I know good owners will get caught up in this. But there are too many bad owners and breeders. Needs proper regulation.

The amount of dog poo littered everywhere proves this. There is an owner round here that spends her full time on her phone walking her dog. Glued to Instagram or whatever and the dog just does whatever it wants wherever it wants.

The whole dog market is far too big in this country. The fact shelters are full of them is proof of this. I'd argue for every one decent owner there is likely to be a poor one, a bad one and a dangerous one especially in deprived areas where the dangerous numbers will be rife compared with non existent in affluent areas.
Nope, rubbish idea. Charging so much would price lesser earners out of owning a dog. The joys of dog ownership shouldn’t be reserved for the wealthy.
 
I’d agree with a license though and compulsory microchipping, ability to trace dogs back to breeders or rescues etc...

Doesn’t need to be prohibitively expensive by design. Some owners should perhaps lose their license or have points added etc...

Ditto to irresponsible breeders etc...

Should help reduce things like puppy farms and dog theft. Imports of dogs should be strictly controlled too.
 
Yeah I agree with that. I think it says a lot about someone who can come up with such an idea though.

While Psycho is living up to his name again owning a dog is not cheap, you shouldn't buy one if you cant afford decent food and insurance at a minimum. The monthly cost of dog insurance gets progressively higher throughout their lives, some of these pedigrees will be well north of £60/month by the time they get to 7+ years old.
 
Nope, rubbish idea. Charging so much would price lesser earners out of owning a dog. The joys of dog ownership shouldn’t be reserved for the wealthy.

Lesser earners should have better priorities like kids, buying nutritionally dense food, gym membership, etc keep themselves healthy both physically and mentally. Rather than trying to fill a void in their life through owning an animal and keeping it caged inside their tiny flat.

Arguably only those who have lots of spare time and therefore money as well can look after a dog properly and it's lesser earners who are more likely to have dangerous dogs.
 
Lesser earners should have better priorities like kids, buying nutritionally dense food, gym membership, etc keep themselves healthy both physically and mentally. Rather than trying to fill a void in their life through owning an animal and keeping it caged inside their tiny flat.

Arguably only those who have lots of spare time and therefore money as well can look after a dog properly and it's lesser earners who are more likely to have dangerous dogs.
You seriously live on another planet. You do not have any concept of how society really works, just your own utopian ideals, which cannot be taken seriously.
 
In a way I kind of agree with the breed problem. I have 2 shihtzus, they couldn't kill a cat let alone a person, If you were to use another animal as a better analogy. Someone who owns a koi carp is going to do less damage than someone who owns a bullshark, but they're both fish.
I've lived with staffs, they are mostly harmless, but train a shihtzu to kill you have a mildly irritating pest, lol, train a staffi to kill and it will.

So whilst it isn't the dogs fault, it's probably a better idea to remove them from the idiot in the equation.. The human, that said, like a lot of others have said, it would just pass the problem onto GSD etc.
 
Lesser earners should have better priorities like kids, buying nutritionally dense food, gym membership, etc keep themselves healthy both physically and mentally.

I just wanted to quote this so i can come back and read it now and then.

Was it a joke? Are you actually a real person?
 
I think another large breed would become the choice instead and you'd just get the same problem with them.
Just ban dogs as pets.

Haven't heard of many people being savaged to death by a cat or goldfish.
 
Just ban dogs as pets.

Haven't heard of many people being savaged to death by a cat or goldfish.
Oh really?

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/cat-sleeps-on-mans-face-camera
There’s nothing scarier than finding out that there’s something in your house trying to kill you. Unless it’s just your pet cat.

A Twitter user claimed he was having trouble breathing in his sleep, so he set up a camera to see what was going on at night. What he saw, however, was somehow both adorable and also terrifying (as only cats can pull off).

Luis Navarro posted on the social media site three pictures taken while he was sleeping. His cat can be seen getting closer to his face until it eventually just sits directly on his face, blocking his nose and mouth. It’s unclear if the cat is actively trying to murder him or just getting cozy, but it does look very comfortable in some of the photos.

“I couldn’t breathe when I slept so I installed a camera,” reads the original tweet.

Twitter users were quick to respond, especially other cat owners. Some shared similar stories, with one posting, “My cat used to do that to me! I only found out because when I woke up from my recurring dream of suffocating, he was sprawled out on my face.”

Another user shared a similar, if only slightly creepier story, posting, “I’ve woken up with my cat nose to nose just staring me dead in the eyes in the middle of the night.”
:p
A grandmother has died after her cat licked scratches on her arm, causing her to fall into a coma.

The 80-year-old Melbourne woman was scratched by her pet, named Minty, and suffered bacterial meningitis when the animal licked the wounds in May.

The woman was found unresponsive in bed by her family as the cat slept nearby.

She fell into a coma at Box Hill Hospital in the city's east but woke after nine days and spent one day with loved ones before she died.

Devastated family are now rallying to stop other pet owners from meeting the same tragic fate, the Herald Sun reported.
https://www.ranker.com/list/killer-cats/jacobybancroft
Fact: Cats are minions of Lucifer sent here to infiltrate mankind, gain our trust, and destroy us from within. Just look at the way they maliciously lick their paws or deviously chase red laser pointers.They’re plotting something sinister. For those who believe cats are just cuddly balls of fur, think again. Even though studies suggest that your feline doesn't actually want to kill you, and reports of killer cats rising up against their owners are rare (just a matter of time?), there are still plenty of cases of cats causing human deaths all over the world. Check out the list below for true stories regarding the many ways cats have killed people.
 

Did you miss the word 'many' in my post?

And neither of those cases are "savaged to death". The first one is simply cats cuddling and the last one is accidental infection.

But the last bit is definitely true - cats are on a mission to enslave mankind, they are just biding their time until through evolution they develop opposable thumbs.

I personally bow to our new cat overlords - all hail the cat queen!
 
Completely unworkable, the current ban on certain breeds doesn't work that well, and why stop at dogs, any large animal like horses would have to go too!

An outright ban on all dogs would be a lot easier to enforce.

Horses don't savage people. Any deaths from horses are by accident (usually caused by another human - i.e. close vehicle pass or a human being careless).
 
At this point does the breed matter? He should be prosecuted for manslaughter at the very least.

breeds are often put under the hammer when its the actual owner at fault. dont blame the breed. any dog can be vicous if its made that way.
 
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