970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

Swagger187 · 8 Feb 2015 at 13:41

whyscotty said:
Agreed.

Though, I would like to know how many returned them actually had issues in game?

Ha, I didn't. I just used it as an excuse to the missus to get a 980

pgi947 · 8 Feb 2015 at 13:42

Even less I'd imagine. The majority that returned will likely have seen it as an easy way to side/upgrade without loosing a penny.

whyscotty · 8 Feb 2015 at 13:45

Swagger187 said:
Ha, I didn't. I just used it as an excuse to the missus to get a 980

Good on ya

I bet there was a few more than you who just thought - why not

pgi947 said:
Even less I'd imagine. The majority that returned will likely have seen it as an easy way to side/upgrade without loosing a penny.

You know it

Ayahuasca · 8 Feb 2015 at 13:48

easyrider said:
Don't tell me what I can and cannot post

That's delusions of gradeur

Then don't try and enforce your own opinion on others as well.

Nobody is a mug for keeping the faster card at 1080p.

Final8y · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:00

RussianSensation said:
This!

The TPU poll shows 24% of PC gamers aren't considering buying a 970 because NV has been dishonest. While not scientific, it shows that some gamers are not happy with how NV treated the situation overall. That's bound to impact their next purchasing decision.

Also, if almost no retailer allows for returns and NV won't take returns directly, how are people supposed to return their cards? 5% sounds incredibly high since it's coming from a small fraction of voluntary retailer offers made by places like OverclockersUK. If all major online and retail stores accepted returns, the number would have been completely different.

What's amazing is that NV is doing absolutely nothing which suggests they feel no remorse to their customers whatsoever and no responsibility as a corporation. That to me will be remembered by a lot of gamers who follow the industry. This is almost blatant arrogance by NV and that type of thinking that "well we don't care since you'll only buy our cards anyway" will hurt NV's brand far more than the adverse performance and marketing spec errors of the 970. Even when GM200 releases and even if it performs well, the fact that NV did absolutely nothing to show their fault will still be remembered.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2419884

Gregster · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:05

Why are you quoting a regular poster from another forum on this forum? If you like what he said, respond there perhaps?

LoadsaMoney · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:15

How long has the 970 got left being fine though, as what will games like GTA5 (and when modded), The Witcher 3 (also when modded) etc.... demand in vram.

Will those keeping their 970s, start to have regrets in a month or 2 from now.

~>Dg<~ · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:19

as long as a 290 has thats how long

whyscotty · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:21

LoadsaMoney said:
How long has the 970 got left being fine though, as what will games like GTA5 (and when modded), The Witcher 3 (also when modded) etc.... demand in vram.

Will those keeping their 970s, start to have regrets in a month or 2 from now.

About as long as any other 4GB card

Neil79 · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:22

I may have to buy a 980GTX, then return my GPU for a refund... Would that be easier? I don't like AMD tbh

easyrider · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:25

Ayahuasca said:
Then don't try and enforce your own opinion on others as well.

Nobody is a mug for keeping the faster card at 1080p.

Power to the people ...fight the power that be...

Accepting is allowing corporations to practise corrupt business....

One can either accept that or fight against it...the mere fact that companies are allowing returns solidifies the nature of the 970 release....it's not what we once first thought....it's not what I bought....

It's that simple.

If the card was released as 3.5gb card you lot would have all kicked off....there is nothing to BE embarrassed about returning it....

~>Dg<~ · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:28

Neil79 said:
I may have to buy a 980GTX, then return my GPU for a refund... Would that be easier? I don't like AMD tbh

pointless. what many don't get is 3.5-4 is a pointless argument. any game that goes over 3.5 will be going to 4 or more so they both screwed.

thing is the games that do this are badly ported games 99 percent of time.

look at games coming for next 1-2 years. there isnt much apart from ports that will trouble upto 4gb unless you at the unattainable 4k res. which cant really be played at comfortably yet anyway.

just salesmen after your cash.

Stanners · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:29

LoadsaMoney said:
How long has the 970 got left being fine though, as what will games like GTA5 (and when modded), The Witcher 3 (also when modded) etc.... demand in vram.

Will those keeping their 970s, start to have regrets in a month or 2 from now.

About the same time as people with 4gb cards I expect.

humbug · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:30

whyscotty said:
Return rates less than 5% after GeForce GTX 970 VRAM Exposure

source

Keep one thing in mind, not all resellers are actually offering the option to return the card, some of them do .. some don't.

If Nvidia had accepted returns it may well have opened the floodgates.

whyscotty · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:30

easyrider said:
Power to the people ...fight the power that be...

.

humbug said:
If Nvidia had accepted returns it may well have opened the floodgates.

That we'll never know

Neil79 · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:40

~>Dg<~ said:
pointless. what many don't get is 3.5-4 is a pointless argument. any game that goes over 3.5 will be going to 4 or more so they both screwed.

thing is the games that do this are badly ported games 99 percent of time.

look at games coming for next 1-2 years. there isnt much apart from ports that will trouble upto 4gb unless you at the unattainable 4k res. which cant really be played at comfortably yet anyway.

just salesmen after your cash.

I do agree with what you are saying, but in the mean time I've posted a customer support ticket to OCUK to discuss the situation. This is the best course of action rather than jumping straight into it.

RavenXXX2 · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:46

Going from 3.5 to 4GB is pointless I agree, better go 290X 8GB then.

Neil79 · 8 Feb 2015 at 14:50

RavenXXX2 said:
Going from 3.5 to 4GB is pointless I agree, better go 290X 8GB then.

As I said I'm going to talk to ocuk rather than do what other people have done and jump straight into OMG I'M RETURNING THIS CARD NOW

welshrat · 8 Feb 2015 at 15:05

I have to say I have no regrets keeping my 970. I have one of the msi gaming editions in one of pc's, it's the pc I have connected to my TV along side wii u and ps4. I admit it will only see 1080p use but so far it has been a far quieter and smoother experience than the Asus dcu 290 that it used to house which I have now moved upstairs to my second Pc. I do think that nvidia have pulled a fast one here but with everything that is known I would still buy the same card.

Ayahuasca · 8 Feb 2015 at 15:12

easyrider said:
there is nothing to BE embarrassed about returning it....

Yeah, nobody has said that, on the other hand there's nothing wrong with keeping the card either.