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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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It's funny how when I called boom out for being a fanboy of whatever he owns at said time by certain members way back when he first got the 980 and was attacking amd like crazy about power efficiency etc. that I was wrong, however, now that he is back on AMD's side, the nvidia fanboys are now calling him out on it hahahahaha, this forum and the usual suspects make for great entertainment :D
 
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Nexus18 said:
It's funny how when I called boom out for being a fanboy of whatever he owns at said time by certain members way back when he first got the 980 and was attacking amd like crazy about power efficiency etc. that I was in the wrong, however, now that he is back on AMD's side, the nvidia fanboys are now calling him out on it hahahahaha, this forum and the usual suspects make for great entertainment :D
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You're probably not paying attention then. Boom always gets pulled down on his supposed fanboyism (still don't know the right word, you know...whatever you own is the best and likes to big it up constantly?) He would always mention whatever card he owned would MAX it out 60FPS constant no dips, no matter the card he owned. That's going back a while now though :p
 
Nexus18 said:
It's funny how when I called boom out for being a fanboy of whatever he owns at said time by certain members way back when he first got the 980 and was attacking amd like crazy about power efficiency etc. that I was wrong, however, now that he is back on AMD's side, the nvidia fanboys are now calling him out on it hahahahaha, this forum and the usual suspects make for great entertainment :D
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Well you'd be completely wrong, many people called him out back then for being a fanboy of whichever side he was with.

humbug said:
Ganging up on Boom now? some members on this forum are a sick joke. :rolleyes:
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Hardly, just pointing out his behaviour.

You've never joined in with the usual AMD lot to have a go at someone have you :rolleyes:
 
Currently I only play at 1200p, I've thought long and hard about this, but in the last couple of days I've decided to return mine.

I was going to upgrade to a 1440p G-Sync monitor in the coming months and go the SLI route, to me it makes common sense now to just return the card. I'll be going FreeSync, and purchase AMD cards instead.

Nvidia GPU's usually hold their value when it comes to second hand, I think the GTX 970 will not, time will see, returning the card for a full refund is hard to refuse in light of the situation.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
How long has the 970 got left being fine though, as what will games like GTA5 (and when modded), The Witcher 3 (also when modded) etc.... demand in vram.

Will those keeping their 970s, start to have regrets in a month or 2 from now.
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whyscotty said:
About as long as any other 4GB card
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The gtx 970 is not like any other 4GB though is it?

Most games are developed to use specific amounts of memory for different quality settings.
If future games are programmed so that Ultra settings use up 4GB then true 4GB cards will be fine but the gtx 970 may not be, especially if Nvidia limits the card to 3.5GB or the card is forced to use the slow 0.5GB.
 
Gregster said:
Why are you quoting a regular poster from another forum on this forum? If you like what he said, respond there perhaps?
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Why are you posting in here as you do not appear to have a 970?

Too many fan boys with no real knowledge assuring people that the 970 does not have a problem when even Nvidia themselves are not doing this.

No matter the resolution, using a 970 for CUDA, gamming or any other Vram intensive workload, whether you use Windows, Linux(includes upcoming SteamOS) or OS X you will run into the Vram issue eventually. At best the result will be micro stutter / poor CUDA performance without specific patches. At worst the result becomes single FPS while gaming. With so many ports coming from console we my very well find that 4GB is the new standard for smooth PC gaming due to preloading textures enhanced by DX 12's memory management. The 970 has only 3.5GB of high performance Vram with a crippled 0.5GB tagged on that cannot be accessed at the same time. I just can't imagine developers coding specifically to work around the 970s issue without Nvidia's finance.

AMD option for now is the 290s. Hard to justify when the next launch is so close. Or the unknown wait for the 3xx series. Mantle looked fantastic when 1st announced yet has failed to reach a must have position. I would have expected Mantle to running on both Linux and PS4 by now with OS X in the pipeline. Intel should be on board with Mantle by now if they ever were going to. True Audio is something that makes my ears ***** up as my eye sight is not so great. Yet I can't remember hearing of this tech since Lichdom released perhaps 6 months ago? On the upside AMD has VESA Adaptive Sync support and so will my next monitor purchase.

Nvidia option would be to upgrade to the 980. GameWorks appears to be on a roll and it does add some very nice visuals when developers can't be bothered to add their own. PhysX has always been a bit of a lame duck and not something I need due to other software based options but still adds a nice check box. Shield as far as I can tell has been a failure. G-Sync has always made me smile along with MCA if you are old enough to remember IBM's folly, good ideas badly implemented. No support for VESA Adaptive Sync stops me purchasing a 980 right now.

I am not surprised at low return rates so far. Many customers will not understand the issue with the 970 and falsely believe it will not affect them. More will simply not be aware that an issue exists. I myself have not had any contact from OcUK informing me of an offer of refund while it is obvious to me that this product breaks our sale of goods act in the UK. Even more strange that retailers are continuing to sell this product without a warning.

970 looked like a great card at launch, now not so much. Continued silence from Nvidia is not helping anyone.

Sorry for the long ramblings. Fan boys misleading people just irritate.
 
Mine has been returned and the money refunded, appalled by nvidia and how they have handled this I wont be able to trust them again so I'm sticking to AMD from now on, bought a 290X for now and its pretty good for the price I paid I'm really pleased with it

Massive thank you to OCUK for sorting it, all of my future orders will be going your way
 
easyrider said:
That's up to the individual... I want what I paid for not a gimped under performing card at the res I want to upgrade to.:)
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So you sent the card back before you even had problems? I understand you need to justify your sidegrade, blimey...jump the gun much?

The funny thing with your whole premise, the card you bought is the same from all the reviews that were posted before release, the ones you probably used to base your purchase decisions on. That being, you got what you paid for ;)
 
Wrinkly said:
The 970 has only 3.5GB of high performance Vram with a crippled 0.5GB tagged on that cannot be accessed at the same time. I just can't imagine developers coding specifically to work around the 970s issue without Nvidia's finance.
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Developers don't need to, the drivers sort it out, important stuff like games goes in the 3.5 and unimportant stuff like Windows UI, Chrome, Battle.net, etc goes in the 0.5 section.

I have both 970 and 290 rigs, the real world difference is only a few hundred MB as the 290 has to put all that stuff in its good RAM.

Before this issue was reported I liked my 970 rig more, today I don'the like it as much but I still like it more.
 
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