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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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Which does not make the 980 a mid range card.

The 980 is nvidia's current fastest card available, but they could no doubt put out the ti and new Titan more or less immediately if they chose to do so. They aren't doing this in order to double dip on people's wallets by holding on to the new cards as long as possible.

The 980 IS a mid range card but nVidia simply aren't allowing you to buy the flagship cards yet.
 
i dont see how they can even call themselves a review site if they are willing to just accept benchmarks like that made up by the company and add a comment agreeing with them,
anyone impartial would not do that without running their own tests first

and if they did run their tests before commenting, where are they?

so really, screw them! lol they are more worried about losing their freebies than misleading people

Hmm. From what I've seen Ryan Shrout has done nothing but good for PC enthusiasts. Had it not been for him there would be no frame pacing on AMD drivers.

Believe what you want but I'll stay open minded and watch with keen interest whatever they do next.
 
If I reading what it is you are trying to imply correctly...

"If I am not having any problem my 970s, then neither should you with yours. You shouldn't complain about an issue your 970s are having and making a fuss because my 970s are working perfectly fine"?

Do you really think I'm implying that somehow my 970's are special and I just got lucky?
 
The 980 is nvidia's current fastest card available, but they could no doubt put out the ti and new Titan more or less immediately if they chose to do so. They aren't doing this in order to double dip on people's wallets by holding on to the new cards as long as possible.

The 980 IS a mid range card but nVidia simply aren't allowing you to buy the flagship cards yet.

I didn't see anybody calling the 780 a mid range card even though titan existed. What's the difference here? You can't have a single top end card and everything under than being 'mid-range' or lower, that's just stupid. IT makes no difference if we know something faster is coming or not, 970/980 performance is not mid-range!
 
I didn't see anybody calling the 780 a mid range card even though titan existed. What's the difference here? You can't have a single top end card and everything under than being 'mid-range' or lower, that's just stupid. IT makes no difference if we know something faster is coming or not, 970/980 performance is not mid-range!

970 is pretty damn mid-range...
 
Which does not make the 980 a mid range card.

Of course it does. Last gen it went low end - 650ti, mid range, 670 and 680, high end 780, 780ti and Titan.

Maxwell - 750ti low end, 970 and 980 mid range, Titan X 990TIOMFGETC high end.

They've been releasing the cheapest ones first, whacking a massively high price tag on their low and mid ranged items then release the high end at silly prices.

And they learned that from Fermi, which they did the other way around and failed completely on. Had they released the 460 first and then released the 480 with 580 spec and cooler? things would have been much better.

As it was they were so desperate for money that they started selling their own branded 460s to cut out the middle man.
 
who buys a £275 gpu to game at low/medium settings :eek:

You don't have to, providing you stick to 1080p which at the last time of looking was a massive share of the monitor resolution stats.

Honestly, are you truly trying to tell me that the memory bus on the 970 and 980 is high end?
 
Hmm. From what I've seen Ryan Shrout has done nothing but good for PC enthusiasts. Had it not been for him there would be no frame pacing on AMD drivers.

Believe what you want but I'll stay open minded and watch with keen interest whatever they do next.

its not a case of believing what i want, its fact. you can go to their site and see the news posting for yourself with the comment they made on it

the part if that is right or wrong to do is the belief part sure
 
Of course it does. Last gen it went low end - 650ti, mid range, 670 and 680, high end 780, 780ti and Titan.

Maxwell - 750ti low end, 970 and 980 mid range, Titan X 990TIOMFGETC high end.

They've been releasing the cheapest ones first, whacking a massively high price tag on their low and mid ranged items then release the high end at silly prices.

And they learned that from Fermi, which they did the other way around and failed completely on. Had they released the 460 first and then released the 480 with 580 spec and cooler? things would have been much better.

As it was they were so desperate for money that they started selling their own branded 460s to cut out the middle man.

God, i'm not even replying to this, it's getting silly.

You don't have to, providing you stick to 1080p which at the last time of looking was a massive share of the monitor resolution stats.

i game at 2560x1080 just fine. other peopel game at 2560x1440 just fine as well. 970 isnt a 1080p card.

Honestly, are you truly trying to tell me that the memory bus on the 970 and 980 is high end?

No, because i dont care about the bus. I bought the card on its performance, not some epeen statistics.
 
God, i'm not even replying to this.



i game at 2560x1080 just fine. other peopel game at 2560x1440 just fine as well. 970 isnt a 1080p.



No, because i dont care about the bus. I bought the card on its performance, not some epeen statistics.

The bus is directly related to its performance, especially on higher resolutions... Holy **** is this the caliber of all your posts or what?
 
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