Soldato
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To be honest I was more annoyed about coil whine than anything, but that's another story
Would never have guessed
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To be honest I was more annoyed about coil whine than anything, but that's another story
True, but at the same time you don't NEED to have a problem to return it, IF it is an unfixable hardware fault that means you effectively have at least 12.5% less memory than you paid for! But it's INEVITABLE this WILL be a problem if it can't be fixed. Just as games that fully utilise 2GB of RAM nowadays (i.e many of them), if they were only able to use 1.5GB, there is NO DOUBT this would affect pretty much everyone!
The point is that the vast majority of 970 owners WILL be affected (eventually) by the issue if it's not fixable. 100% guaranteed... to say otherwise is to say that a game will NEVER use more than 3.5GB RAM, which is obviously utter nonsense given some do now! The 1.5GB example is a perfect illustration of that, as when 4GB first turned up, everyone said you don't need it and 2GB was more than enough (which it was for a while). Bury your head in the sand if you like, but this WILL end up being a MASSIVE problem eventually (if it's not fixed).I've never said you CAN'T return it I've just said I don't think it's right if you're not affected by the issue. I've already said we'll agree to disagree because I'm not buying into your train of thought at all I'm sure you aren't buying into mine either so I see little point in repeating the same points in a different way.
Your example of the 1.5GB / 2GB isn't relevant because that isn't the situation we're in. If it were then I believe it would be more of a pressing concern as more would be affected.
The point is that the vast majority of 970 owners WILL be affected (eventually) by the issue if it's not fixable. 100% guaranteed... to say otherwise is to say that a game will NEVER use more than 3.5GB RAM, which is obviously utter nonsense given some do now! The 1.5GB example is a perfect illustration of that, as when 4GB first turned up, everyone said you don't need it and 2GB was more than enough (which it was for a while). Bury your head in the sand if you like, but this WILL end up being a MASSIVE problem eventually (if it's not fixed).
You're implying there's a possibility people WON'T be affected. They will be. Eventually.I don't think you've really read anything I've said. You have a warranty period if you're affected. You can use it. Voila.
It matters... because it matters. What matters is surely what affects you. Why be bothered if you're not affected?
We'll have to simply agree to disagree.
You're implying there's a possibility people WON'T be affected. They will be. Eventually.
Exactly, you've summed it up well there I think.It might not affect them, but in the future if it does (I dunno gaming on larger monitors and whatnot) and it's out of it's warranty or just past 12 months where most retailers usually wash their hands with you and tell you to go to the manufacturer.
What would they do then? I thought the same before and learned the hard way with a GPU I had. The DVI port failed early on and I happily used the VGA port while it ran out of its warranty just for convenience. The VGA port went shortly after the warranty expired and had to bin it as no one really wanted to know about it.
I don't see anything where anyone's trying to 'gain' something other than a working and fully functional card that fullfills its specifications.
You're implying there's a possibility people WON'T be affected. They will be. Eventually.
It might not affect them, but in the future if it does (I dunno gaming on larger monitors and whatnot) and it's out of it's warranty or just past 12 months where most retailers usually wash their hands with you and tell you to go to the manufacturer.
What would they do then? I thought the same before and learned the hard way with a GPU I had. The DVI port failed early on and I happily used the VGA port while it ran out of its warranty just for convenience. The VGA port went shortly after the warranty expired and had to bin it as no one really wanted to know about it.
I don't see anything where anyone's trying to 'gain' something other than a working and fully functional card that fullfills its specifications.
typical amd vs. nvidia thread again, yawn
Who knows what the route cause of this is. Let's hope it can be fixed, but for all we know the new AMD cards could suffer from the same problem! We really know nothing at this point.