A fair comparison. PS3 vs 360 price.

andybtsn said:
Nice logic, also things like watching HD/blu-ray DVDs, using the media capabilities etc.
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Exactly! just the hours from playing TDU alone for me, have made my 360 a worthwhile investment. Plus there are some killer titles coming out for both systems in the future that will only go to make them even better purchases! :D
 
meh, £150 core system, done, buy games get on with it.

wireless, gimmick generally, extra's due to wireless, not needed if you don't have it. hard drive, demo's, errm, a couple beta's(can you get beta's sorted by disc or not, bit hard to do that really), all the other crap, its up to you, some people don't want to play over the net, a year of live service isn't expensive though.

there isn't a base ps3, 99% of users will not make use of the bluray properly for a couple of years, by which point there will be a £60 addon hd-dvd/bluray combo drive available for the xbox360 probo.

the price is what you make of it, quite frankly high def drives should be addons available with price dramatically falling on them over next couple years. hard drive addon's should cost almost nothing £70 for a 20gig drive is beyond a joke. if you take base price of the xbox, and then if all the accessories weren't utter rip offs you'd have a £170 xbox 360 with hard drive. which to me seems pretty cheap. but the ps3 without uk rip off and without bluray drive should be much cheaper also.


what i would love to know is how much of the total real cost of the consoles for each major part, mainly because i want to know just how much that bluray drive really add's to the cost. i mean, at £100 for special deals(buying it same time as a new 360) you can get the hd-dvd, theres still some profit there to the reseller, there's vat, profit for m$ and profit for the hd-dvd drive producer. the parts for a hd-dvd drive can't be more than £40, which would suggest the bluray isn't "that" big a cost in the ps3.

the only relevant question with consoles is, how much would they cost if they sold accessories at reasonable prices and gave you the option to buy a working console with all features(you really do need at least some hd space now) and none of the profit making scam accessories.
 
wannabedamned said:
heh, I like the Wii. Lacking games at the moment, So i'll agree if you say it's slowed down a little.

But the console in itself is great fun. Not for serious gamers tho.
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What exactly is a "serious gamer" then? I play games as often as my boyfriend and his "gamer" friends, and if I could only have one console out of the 360, PS3 and Wii, it would be the latter.

I really wish people would stop posting this rubbish about how much the consoles cost. Different people want different things, get over it.
 
Vixen said:
What exactly is a "serious gamer" then? I play games as often as my boyfriend and his "gamer" friends, and if I could only have one console out of the 360, PS3 and Wii, it would be the latter.

I really wish people would stop posting this rubbish about how much the consoles cost. Different people want different things, get over it.
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The games on the Wii aren't serious. They are fun loving, Party games. There is possibly the odd game that comes out for the Wii witha more serious tone.
 
drunkenmaster said:
there isn't a base ps3, 99% of users will not make use of the bluray properly for a couple of years, by which point there will be a £60 addon hd-dvd/bluray combo drive available for the xbox360 probo.
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Everytime a PS user plays a game there making use of the blu-ray drive, it isn't there purely to play DVD's! In regards to films, 2 years is a bit excessive, HD-Dvd's have been around nearly 6 months now, it took a while for normal DVD's to catch on, but they did.
 
andybtsn said:
Everytime a PS user plays a game there making use of the blu-ray drive..
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Only by default. I'm pretty sure every single PS3 game produced so far would quite happily have fitted on DVD9.
 
In my eyes it is like the housing market. Take a standard 3 bedroom semi worth £150k. You could spend £100k doing it up, extending, adding en-suite etc, but there is always a cap in the area of how much a house will sell for no matter what you do to it. It's the same with the console market, the PS3 might have all these extras that Xbox360s don't have, but £400 is more than the majority are willing to pay for a console. It is therefore seen as overpriced.

I agree though, the console is expensive not overpriced (and yes there is a huge difference).

The way I describe the PS3 to most people who ask me is, if you are interested in playing blueray films and playing games, then it represents good value. If you just want a games console then it's not worth the £400 price tag.
 
andybtsn said:
Everytime a PS user plays a game there making use of the blu-ray drive, it isn't there purely to play DVD's! In regards to films, 2 years is a bit excessive, HD-Dvd's have been around nearly 6 months now, it took a while for normal DVD's to catch on, but they did.
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well honestly i didn't know ps3 games came on a bluray, asked in another thread i think though, cost wise it seems a waste. in a year games still won't be using hugely more data because, well most games that even use dvd9's now don't need the full space, they add in lots of essential dead data to make it harder to copy, crack and so on. either way, the graphical power of the ps3/360 won't change, they can't deal with huge new textures that take up more space. games won't get massive, it could have a dvd drive in and be completely fine.

it tooks way more than a few years for dvd to become properly supported and used, hd-dvd/bluray will take even longer as a huge huge majority of people have non high def tv's, 99% of tv content in the uk at least is broadcast in normal definition. dvd/vhs fight took ages for dvd to become widespread, and its because it offered things like, no rewind/fastforward need, it matched the quality roughly of normal def tv's where vhs captured at half the quality of tv's and looked like crap. dvd offered huge huge benefits over vhs and took ages to become mainstream, hd-dvd for 99% of the uk offers no advantage because the tv's can't show the extra detail and proper 1080p screens are few and far between and still expensive, and the hd players are hugely overpriced right now.
 
Abyss said:
In my eyes it is like the housing market. Take a standard 3 bedroom semi worth £150k. You could spend £100k doing it up, extending, adding en-suite etc, but there is always a cap in the area of how much a house will sell for no matter what you do to it. It's the same with the console market, the PS3 might have all these extras that Xbox360s don't have, but £400 is more than the majority are willing to pay for a console. It is therefore seen as overpriced.

I agree though, the console is expensive not overpriced (and yes there is a huge difference).

The way I describe the PS3 to most people who ask me is, if you are interested in playing blueray films and playing games, then it represents good value. If you just want a games console then it's not worth the £400 price tag.
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it is overpriced based purely on the fact that, unless you rung Folding@home then its not newer tech, or faster tech, its simply different. the cell is a waste, cost huge amounts to develope and produce when a c2d would have been fine, its got a 7800 in it, basically, which should be fairly cheap. the two main costs within the box are the bluray and the cell chip and both are entirely not needed. I also question just how much a bluray drive really costs, sure retail bluray players are stupidly overpriced, but as i said earlier, the hd-dvd player the xbox has, from all the different parts of it, are pretty cheap and must be pretty cheap to produce now too.
 
dirtydog said:
Don't forget to factor in the cost to 360 owners of replacing scratched discs as well.
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Never had to replace a disc for my 360, had atleast 20+ games for my 360 so this is a rubbish statement to make.

I am happy with my 360 and the money I have spend on it, had it since launch and too me its been money well spent.
 
The PS3 has one more advantage that people always seem to forget and that is that it can cook sausages on its built in grill. MS don't even have a USB grill for the 360.

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neocon said:
The PS3 has one more advantage that people always seem to forget and that is that it can cook sausages on its built in grill. MS don't even have a USB grill for the 360.

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If only...
 
neocon said:
The PS3 has one more advantage that people always seem to forget and that is that it can cook sausages on its built in grill. MS don't even have a USB grill for the 360.
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A silent grill too into the bargain :D
 
The price difference isnt really that big so should be forgotten about. I bought my games console for the best gaming experience, obviously having all 3 next gen consoles is probably the ultimate, but a lot of folk dont have a spare grand kying about for that. That is why the 360 is doing so well, not because its cheaper, its because it has better games and that is why I prefer it.
 
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