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A Week With NVIDIA's G-SYNC Monitor

I had a spare few minutes and managed to find this;

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...h&OS=nvidia+AND+refresh&RS=nvidia+AND+refresh

basically, it's a patent on looking at a display buffer and using the condition that it is updated by a command source (GPU or CPU) and then adjusting the monitors refresh rate to match that command source

if you search for NVidia and refresh there are quite a lot of hits, this was like the 3rd or 4th on the list and I couldn't be bothered to look at others, there might be more that could also relate to gsync

so much for NVidia not being able to patent the idea of a graphics card telling the monitor when to refresh, though having the patent also obliges them to licence it if it is deemed to be essential to the industry
 
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Really really really interested in this.

If G-SYNC can deliver 120/144Hz fluidity all of the time on, for example, a 60Hz IPS/VA panel I will be all over it.

All the pros of 120/144Hz AND IPS/VA colour accuracy and depth? SOLD.
 
pgi947 said:
£440 with no solid eta.

What a let down.
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did I miss something? the only "confirmed" pricing I've seen is $399 / €399
at £440 it would be cheaper to buy from the US or Europe even after shipping etc., they would be massively shooting themselves in the foot to go for a well north of 400 quid price
 
andybird123 said:
did I miss something? the only "confirmed" pricing I've seen is $399 / €399
at £440 it would be cheaper to buy from the US or Europe even after shipping etc., they would be massively shooting themselves in the foot to go for a well north of 400 quid price
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We said the price was crazy.

Wait until next year, Benq will have 24" and 27" versions both cheaper than the pricing your seeing right now.

Also from looking at all the video's of this, yes it is great, but more beneficial to those with something like a GTX 760, if you've got a 780Ti or 290X, there is still benefits, but less so.
 
@Andy, one retailer has pricing up though they don't sound like retail units (more like in house fits). Either way the price is extortionate and they have no eta, over £160 more then base model too.

@Gibbo, I see what you're getting at, if it does what it says on the tin I might have to get rid of my 2nd 780 :p. If a game sitting at 30-40 fps feels just the same as a game at 60+fps surely gsync would be seen as a great investment, no longer would you have to throw piles of cash at gpu's to get desirable minimums...

How soon do you think it's going to take to get benq units up for preorder?
 
pgi947 said:
@andy, one retailer has pricing up though they don't sound like retail units (more like in house fits). Either way the price is extortionate and they have no eta, over £160 more then base model too.

@Gibbo, I see what you're getting at, if it does what it says on the tin I might have to get rid of my 2nd 780 :p. If a game sitting at 30-40 fps feels just the same as a game at 60+fps surely gsync would be seen as a great investment, no longer would you have to throw piles of cash at gpu's to get desirable minimums...

How soon do you think it's going to take to get benq units up for preorder?
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G-Sync does not make a game smooth if the GPU can not deliver, bear this in mind. Ideally you want a minimum of 60fps at all times anyway to have the best in-game experience, at which point G-Sync work less of a miracle.

The best solution is a real minimum of 60fps and G-Sync, but in reality if you have such a rig which can deliver such high fps and the drivers are set right, G-Sync will improve things still but not as noticeable as a machine which less GPU power.

The price is crazy, the BenQ options seem best, just got a couple of months to wait for those.

I still want to get an Asus here and test it, because I feel the current in-house test are all, well a bit rigged, you'll have to excuse my paranoid sense but so far it has only being tested on machines with a single GTX 760, a card which is not powerful enough.

I want to see it on a machine with a 780Ti or a 290X, even better still a machine with the above in SLI/Crossfire, next to a 144Hz/1ms monitor and next to the Eizo 240Hz monitor, as it is my belief the difference will then not be night and day, of course am happy to be proven wrong, I just find it odd how all the demo's so far are with GTX 760's, why not showcase it on a PC with a 780Ti?
 
ah ok, that's sounds plausible - if you think about it you are paying not only for the base model (and it's standard controller), then and upgrade module and then someone's time to fit it, it would be more expensive than a straight up Gsync model

and yeah, I can see what you are saying Gibbo and why you think that, but from what the reviewers are saying, it's straight up impressive at any FPS

as I plan on buying a 4K monitor anyway and it sounds like the 39 inch Asus one will be coming with gsync, it would be silly to get anything else - I don't plan on changing it for at least 5 years so if gsync means I need 2 instead of 3 GPU's for each of my next upgrades then it'll be an investment worth making

it's easy to see why they are using a mid range card and showing that sub 60fps can still look totally smooth, because why buy AMD £400 and £300 monitor if you can buy Nvidia £200 and £3-400 monitor (or even less with the benq ones) where the monitor will last you several upgrade cycles, it swings the performance and value crowns firmly back towards nvidia
 
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andybird123 said:
ah ok, that's sounds plausible - if you think about it you are paying not only for the base model (and it's standard controller), then and upgrade module and then someone's time to fit it, it would be more expensive than a straight up Gsync model

and yeah, I can see what you are saying Gibbo and why you think that, but from what the reviewers are saying, it's straight up impressive at any FPS

as I plan on buying a 4K monitor anyway and it sounds like the 39 inch Asus one will be coming with gsync, it would be silly to get anything else - I don't plan on changing it for at least 5 years so if gsync means I need 2 instead of 3 GPU's for each of my next upgrades then it'll be an investment worth making
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My advice is:-

£400+ on a TN panel, absolute stupidity.

Wait for more Asus/Benq models to come along, then buy a 24/27" IPS monitor with this technology, so you get great image quality and G-sync rolled into one and they will probably be £400-£500 too, so it is worth waiting, well I certainly would. :)

We shall try to get hold of one, as I personally want to test it on a high-end rig next to a 144Hz/1ms monitor and even the Eizo 240Hz model. :)
 
andybird123 said:
it's easy to see why they are using a mid range card and showing that sub 60fps can still look totally smooth, because why buy AMD £400 and £300 monitor if you can buy Nvidia £200 and £3-400 monitor (or even less with the benq ones) where the monitor will last you several upgrade cycles, it swings the performance and value crowns firmly back towards nvidia
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Does it really? The people that buy value won't buy a £400 monitor.
 
Hopefully by this time next year when this has taken off a nice cheap 24" for about £150 will be ideal.
 
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