A8R32-MVP what is it

cuke2u · 6 Apr 2006 at 16:13

Hi, am I OT, or is ther no-one here?

Second question I've asked that I don't seem to be getting a response to. Taken Quake 4 off my PC, keeps crashing with quake4.exe and I keep getting 'errors with my video card settings, something still isn't right.

Edit: solved the quake4.exe issue, seems like that game doesn't like overclocks...
ChrisC

lordedmond · 6 Apr 2006 at 16:45

chriscatt said:
Hi, am I OT, or is ther no-one here? Second question I've asked that I don't seem to be getting a response to. Taken Quake 4 off my PC, keeps crashing with quake4.exe and I keep getting 'errors with my video card settings, something still isn't right.

Edit: solved the quake4.exe issue, seems like that game doesn't like overclocks...
ChrisC

no we are still here waiting for the bios to tidy up the lose end so to speak ,
OT
nothing new here only had to get zalman to replace the blue pipes on the reserator ( they stank , and i mean that ) the clear ones are ok , it took them two attemps they seem not to know how much pipe they supply ( the kit has 4 meters ) but they seem to thinlk it has only 3 !!!

cuke2u · 6 Apr 2006 at 16:53

Hi, and aren't there some loose ends too!!! Quake 4 just crashed on me again, so it wasn't the overclock, I wonder it's to do with ATI drivers or Asus this time, although setting the memory at 1T might be having a adverse effect. I'm also thinking about going the way of watercooling but I've heard that the Zalman, aside from being very quiet, isn't so efficient at cooling than others.
Lets hope that Asus get their finger out real soon...
ChrisC

lordedmond · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:06

Chris

yes the zalman will just cope with one x1900xtx and a x2 4800 max temps after an evenings gameing are 52 gfx and cpu

its the desk that has a back in it and it contains the heat , then the pc sucks it back in get hotter , sucks more heat back in,

the zalman sits out side the desk so no heat recirculating problems and complete silence just a slight hum from the sammies

its a trade of due to the situation, ( I was a HVAC eng amonge other things elec. to HND and a degree in electrical engineering ) now I do not have a job , i could not be happier no stess

hey we had better get back on topic before a Don comes by

My system is running fine evry thing runs as i want it to , its just the niggle that things could be better ( better grass on the other side of the fence so to speak )

we await more info from Raja

daftVader · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:25

chriscatt said:
Hi, and aren't there some loose ends too!!! Quake 4 just crashed on me again, so it wasn't the overclock, I wonder it's to do with ATI drivers or Asus this time, although setting the memory at 1T might be having a adverse effect. I'm also thinking about going the way of watercooling but I've heard that the Zalman, aside from being very quiet, isn't so efficient at cooling than others.
Lets hope that Asus get their finger out real soon...
ChrisC

Chris, I have problems with Quake4 too (EDIT: it seemed to be stable when I first started playing it). Sometimes it will crash after a few minutes, sometimes after an hour and very ocassionally not at all. It usually does it when loading a new area.

I didn't manage to get the new patch before it was pulled due to that widescreen timing issue. Have you got it? I'm wondering if it makes any difference. I think there was supposed to be better support for dual core in it amongst other things. I don't reckon it's a problem with the asus though (just to get back OT

)

cuke2u · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:32

Hi daftVader, I'm now not sure if we're OT with this so all I can say is that I've tried everything, understand me drift? I've not got dualcore....
We wait

ChrisC

Coolasmoo · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:45

With a bit of luck, we might get to see Catalyst 6.4 tonight or tomorrow so im hoping they will tidy up a few issues.

andyr · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:55

Coolasmoo said:
With a bit of luck, we might get to see Catalyst 6.4 tonight or tomorrow so im hoping they will tidy up a few issues.

Hi Coolasamoo will you post a link if you come across them

fizzy · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:56

Nystylin74 said:
One more question, sorry for being so inquisitive. I've heard that there are a lot of issues with people using Windows XP x64. Now I'm debating on getting that OS. But is it true that people that used the OS were having a lot of instability, I'm thinking of ordering the trial CD from MS. and seeing how it acts towards the whole situation. Cause if I see that's its unstable, I'll just wait till Vista. The other thing is that x64 is only being sold OEM. But being that I'm not a computer guru I want the product support. So if I buy an OEM version of X64 when Vista comes out will I be able to buy a retail version of it and not have to pay for product support or will it remain OEM because the original OS was OEM?

Am I making any sense?

I'm using XP64 and it seems fine. I made sure I had the latest patches installed (including the HD Audio update/fix if you are using the onboard sound). Doesn't seem quite as "nippy" as normal xp though - probably as most stuff I tend to run on it isn't optimised for 64 bit...

As for the OEM stuff - Its a full copy of the OS, just without support (as you would normally go through your "system supplier" for that) and generally comes in a plain sleeve/case with no manual or box. You can use it as un upgrade with no problems.

The only time upgrading an o/s becomes and issue is if its one of those "preinstalled" setups from the big high street stores, where you have no physical disk (they expect you to make "backup" disks - cheapskates!

). I believe theres some strange volume licensing agreement with MS for that.

So you shouldn't have a problem with the oem version from ocuk (which is what I have)... ?

EDIT: Just re-read your post.

If you have an oem version of xp64, then I would expect that you can upgrade to a full version of Vista at a later date (with associated MS support) if you want, or save a few pennies and get an oem version (without support) and just use the net to answer any questions you want answered.... Choice is entirely up to you!

Coolasmoo · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:57

andyr said:
Hi Coolasamoo will you post a link if you come across them

I will yeah,

if im not around they will be posted by someone in the Graphics forum anyway.

Nystylin74 · 6 Apr 2006 at 19:17

Hey Fizzy thanks for your reply, lol I was wondering when someone was going to read that post and give me a reply. You think I should just get X64 edition?
Is it stable enough? Cause in that case it will save me a whole bunch of cash...One more thing is the interface to x64 the same as the 32 bit version, or am I gonna have to play with it?

Nystylin74 · 6 Apr 2006 at 20:19

Here is something I just thougt of, till all the others (DFI,ABIT,SAPPHIRE) decide to put out their 3200 chipset boards I think I'm just gonna go with the MSI RD480 Neo2-FI Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail . Is that a good board to play with till a good stable 3200 CF board comes out. I have no problem buying a $250 mobo but I want it to work out of the box. So, you guys think that will be a good buy? I'm not looking to Over Clock, I just want to be able to use my FX60 and 2 X1900XT/CFE cards I bought. Oh, If I'm not going to be overclocking and I already have the x1900 cf edition master card am I even going to need the 3200 chip set, is there and speed difference or is it just about not having to buy the CrossFire Edition card and overclocking, cause if that's the case. Screw it, I won't need to buy another board...Please let me know so I can just order the rest of my damn parts and be a happy little gamer.. :^)

fizzy · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:46

Nystylin74 said:
Hey Fizzy thanks for your reply, lol I was wondering when someone was going to read that post and give me a reply. You think I should just get X64 edition?
Is it stable enough? Cause in that case it will save me a whole bunch of cash...One more thing is the interface to x64 the same as the 32 bit version, or am I gonna have to play with it?

The driver/general support of winxp64 is sadly lacking to be honest. You can't use standard xp drivers - they need to be written for the 64 bit environment. Means things like my videologic web cam won't work etc. I would only consider xp64 if you really want 64 bit o/s. Look and feel wise theres not much difference to XP - still a fussy little thing that I spend ages trying to switch all the fancy stuff off so its more like 2k.

I must admit it seems very stable. Not had any major crashes that I can recall - however thats probably as there aren't many 3rd party drivers available that may upset the system etc.

Benefits - well, its 64 bit, and you can play enhanced versions of UT2004, Far cry etc. A little faster when using true 64 bit apps.

Shortfalls - driver support. Not many people/developers "jumping on the bandwagon" and just seeing how it goes yet, so its not really going anywhere in a hurry. The 64 bits don't seem to make a major benefit - but I guess thats probably more down to MS's implementation. I doubt they re-wrote windows from the ground up in 64 bit...

I guess if you want fully featured, (fairly) trouble free computing, stick with XP. If you want to go "all frills" 64 bit or just want bleeding edge, go XP64 - or like most of us with XP64 (I recon) - have a dual boot setup with both.

Works well on the A8R32-MVP though (vain attempt to stay on topic

)

fizzy · 6 Apr 2006 at 23:46

Display noise?

Well, I had board that produced the whiney/screech noise so I decided to RMA it. A week or so later, and I have my new replacement. Had to flash the bios to 311 (done straight away), rebiult with win xp64 from scratch. All running fine.

I have however noticed something odd. I'm often getting what appears to be some sort of interference on screen. Most noticable on large sections of plain white colour - looks almost like a horizontal ripple/stripe effect? Seems to tie in with either high cpu or hdd usage (not sure exactly which yet) - which coincidentaly was about the same times I was getting the noise on the other board...?

I'm using a crossfire setup (HIS X1900XT Crossfire card, HIS X1900XT "slave") using the link cable out the back, and a 21" crt connected via a dvi to vga adapter.

Anybody else experience this? I switched crossfire mode off thinking it was that, but still there. May try using the DVI port on the card rather than the crossfire cable and see if that makes any difference.....

ozscot · 7 Apr 2006 at 10:45

fizzy said:
Well, I had board that produced the whiney/screech noise so I decided to RMA it. A week or so later, and I have my new replacement. Had to flash the bios to 311 (done straight away), rebiult with win xp64 from scratch. All running fine.

I have however noticed something odd. I'm often getting what appears to be some sort of interference on screen. Most noticable on large sections of plain white colour - looks almost like a horizontal ripple/stripe effect? Seems to tie in with either high cpu or hdd usage (not sure exactly which yet) - which coincidentaly was about the same times I was getting the noise on the other board...?

I'm using a crossfire setup (HIS X1900XT Crossfire card, HIS X1900XT "slave") using the link cable out the back, and a 21" crt connected via a dvi to vga adapter.

Anybody else experience this? I switched crossfire mode off thinking it was that, but still there. May try using the DVI port on the card rather than the crossfire cable and see if that makes any difference.....

Yeah I have the same problem, posted on this forum about it. It`s really noticeable for me when I run F1 Challenge and in the last couple of days I`ve noticed a high pitched noise when I run any 3d application.

Coolasmoo · 7 Apr 2006 at 17:29

fizzy said:
I have however noticed something odd. I'm often getting what appears to be some sort of interference on screen. Most noticable on large sections of plain white colour - looks almost like a horizontal ripple/stripe effect? Seems to tie in with either high cpu or hdd usage (not sure exactly which yet) - which coincidentaly was about the same times I was getting the noise on the other board...?

I'm using a crossfire setup (HIS X1900XT Crossfire card, HIS X1900XT "slave") using the link cable out the back, and a 21" crt connected via a dvi to vga adapter.

Anybody else experience this? I switched crossfire mode off thinking it was that, but still there. May try using the DVI port on the card rather than the crossfire cable and see if that makes any difference.....

a lot of people are reporting this issue but i think its ATi related this time.

If i run through VGA i get the same lines,

DVI is fine but anything above and including 1680*1050 causes the screen to move slightly left to right in 3D games

SimonMaltby · 7 Apr 2006 at 18:55

here is a new way of using this board... at least its new to me.

Just got my FX60, so thought i would try something new.. here is how i'm setup.

CPU 14 x 215 = 3012 (on air Si120 with silent fan, 1.55v)
HT at 1000 or x5
Ram 215 with the 250 Divider - running actual at 251FSB

This seems to be more stable than simply running 250 X 12 and i have Ht at 1000. Performance is slightly better too.

Setup for reference is...
FX60 - Gskill HZ 4000 - Xfire X1900's

Tanquen · 7 Apr 2006 at 19:07

SimonMaltby said:
here is a new way of using this board... at least its new to me.

Just got my FX60, so thought i would try something new.. here is how i'm setup.

CPU 14 x 215 = 3012 (on air Si120 with silent fan, 1.55v)
HT at 1000 or x5
Ram 215 with the 250 Divider - running actual at 251FSB

This seems to be more stable than simply running 250 X 12 and i have Ht at 1000. Performance is slightly better too.

Setup for reference is...
FX60 - Gskill HZ 4000 - Xfire X1900's

Can you post more detailed settings? I have a FX60 also and would like to get it to 3GHz. I had gotten it to 2.9Ghz I can’t do it now but I don’t know much of anything about overclocking.

This Me System:

CPU AMD Athlon 64 FX 60 2.6G 939P - CPU FAN Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
MEM 1Gx2 Mushkin 184P D500 991493R
MB ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe XPES320 939
Video Card X1900XTX 512M H190XTX512DVN
HD 160G ST 7K 8M SATA2 ST3160812AS (4 Drives in 2 RAID Arrays)
PSU 2 (Yes 2 power supplies) Silverstone SST-ST60F 600W RT
DVD-ROM Pioneer DVD-106S
DVD-ROM Pioneer DVD-???
DVD-RW Sony DRU-800A
DVD-RW Sony DRU-820A

fizzy · 7 Apr 2006 at 19:16

Coolasmoo said:
a lot of people are reporting this issue but i think its ATi related this time.

If i run through VGA i get the same lines,

DVI is fine but anything above and including 1680*1050 causes the screen to move slightly left to right in 3D games

Hmm... has there been any mention of what may be causing this? Card issue, chipset timing issue or power related? If its the later I can't see an easy fix.

This is my biggest PC purchase to date, and has had the biggest problems.

daftVader · 7 Apr 2006 at 21:25

SimonMaltby said:
here is a new way of using this board... at least its new to me.

---- snip 8< ----
Thanks for posting that

Very interesting!

I've got mine at 10x295 with just the stock cooling at the mo (my 3D06 scores and cpu-z screenies are a couple of posts up from yours in the 3dmark06 scores thread). By the way, the new version of cpu-z shows memory command rate too.

My MCW60s arrived today

which were the last parts i was waiting on for my water cooling setup so hopefully my oc will improve.

Will have a play with the multiplier before fitting water to see if i can come up with anything like yours. Can't quite hit the magic 10k on 3d06 at the moment lol.