Abramovich & Chelsea + a bit of Everton

dannyjo22 said:
Yeah but if you were a high profile Russian would you speak out against Putin? I guess that's why we are doing things like this, because we won't actually do anything about Russia even if they bomb every Hospital and School in the Ukraine. We will stand and clap speeches and change Facebook profile pictures stating we stand with Ukraine while stripping some assets to help pay for furlough.
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Agreed, drove up the motorway today, Ukrainian flag on one of the bridges, I appreciate the sentiment but you know.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Yeah but if you were a high profile Russian would you speak out against Putin? I guess that's why we are doing things like this, because we won't actually do anything about Russia even if they bomb every Hospital and School in the Ukraine. We will stand and clap speeches and change Facebook profile pictures stating we stand with Ukraine while stripping some assets to help pay for furlough.
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That's exactly it. For Russia change has to come from within. No-one else can change Putin's opinion. Oligarchs likely have the most power and influence over Putin.

Without powerful friends, Putin is at risk of being given the boot. If he makes enough enemies out of them then he won't have anywhere to turn.
 
dannyjo22 said:
What's it got to do with him now? None of the money will go to him will it? He won't have any say.

"But the BBC understands the government would consider allowing Mr Abramovich to apply for a special licence to sell the club, providing he can prove he would not benefit from the sale."

So the sale will happen for nothing for him anyway?
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Ah yes, true. I thought it said he couldn't make a profit from it, but that would still mean gaining millions based on the original share price.

So yes, he either refuses to sell and hopes to ride out the sanction before the club runs out of money. Or he gives it away.

I believe he'd still have a say - he still owns it.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Half the stuff in your house comes from a country with terrible human rights record. You don't care. Everyone of us here funds these awful countries. Food, fuel, electronics or whatever else. In one aspect trump was right on Nato, why should he care when the Germans and others where fueling (no pun intended) the Russians. It's damn hypocritical to suddenly take the high ground on this one after 15 odd years mere months after allowing the Newcastle purchase. But we probably have a load of arms we want to sell to the Saudi's.
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Not taking the high ground, I have no control over any Russian gas going into my boiler/ oven.
All the plastic ***** in my house is from China, BUT, they haven't invaded a sovereign state.
 
Just catching up with this after a mad day with work. RA being sanctioned may lead to him ending up keeping the club - it now makes little to no sense for him to allow the sale to go through if the funds from the sale will now be seized so maybe he just sits on the club until the sanctions are lifted? **** knows what that will mean for Chelsea if that doesn't happen before the new season though. Even if Chelsea persuade the government to allow more exceptions, allowing them to sell tickets etc, their commercial revenue will tank with sponsors cutting ties with them.

Whatever happens, hopefully this is the wake up call we need in football regarding existing and future ownerships. Everton will, indirectly, take a battering from this and Arsenal could have very easily been in the same situation had the Usmanov/Kroenke battle played out differently - to think we had Arsenal supporters on here just last season hoping Usmanov would buyout Kroenke. If and when the West decide they don't need or want Arab oil or arms sales, Newcastle and City could be in the same situation in the future too. Allowing football clubs to be used as political tools has always been a recipe for disaster and that disaster's finally happened.

As for the questions re what Abramovich has done to deserve this. As if the way he earned and maintained his wealth wasn't enough, sanctions are being placed on all of those with close connections to Putin & the Kremlin in an attempt to squeeze them as hard as they can, forcing them to end their invasion of Ukraine.
 
BaZ87 said:
Just catching up with this after a mad day with work. RA being sanctioned may lead to him ending up keeping the club - it now makes little to no sense for him to allow the sale to go through if the funds from the sale will now be seized so maybe he just sits on the club until the sanctions are lifted? **** knows what that will mean for Chelsea if that doesn't happen before the new season though. Even if Chelsea persuade the government to allow more exceptions, allowing them to sell tickets etc, their commercial revenue will tank with sponsors cutting ties with them.

Whatever happens, hopefully this is the wake up call we need in football regarding existing and future ownerships. Everton will, indirectly, take a battering from this and Arsenal could have very easily been in the same situation had the Usmanov/Kroenke battle played out differently - to think we had Arsenal supporters on here just last season hoping Usmanov would buyout Kroenke. If and when the West decide they don't need or want Arab oil or arms sales, Newcastle and City could be in the same situation in the future too. Allowing football clubs to be used as political tools has always been a recipe for disaster and that disaster's finally happened.

As for the questions re what Abramovich has done to deserve this. As if the way he earned and maintained his wealth wasn't enough, sanctions are being placed on all of those with close connections to Putin & the Kremlin in an attempt to squeeze them as hard as they can, forcing them to end their invasion of Ukraine.
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Any idea what happens with away allocations? Do people buy tickets directly with the FA or do they simply not have away fans, providing they havent already been sold.
 
Not a clue. I'd imagine that tickets for the next couple of games have already been sold so supporters will still be able to attend those games but beyond that, who knows. Maybe the PL will force Chelsea to give those tickets away free as they're required to offer 3k tickets to away supporters.
 
BaZ87 said:
Not a clue. I'd imagine that tickets for the next couple of games have already been sold so supporters will still be able to attend those games but beyond that, who knows. Maybe the PL will force Chelsea to give those tickets away free as they're required to offer 3k tickets to away supporters.
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I thought maybe the FA will sell them directly like i think they will if Chelsea get to the FA cup semis. They will have to do something as we cant have no away fans at their games.
 
The jealousy from other fans is hilarious, you should however be wary that this could happen to your club as the government have provided no evidence of any wrong doing by Abramovich and are punishing Chelsea football club and its fans through what should be considered illegal sanctions.
 
G I BURROWS said:
The jealousy from other fans is hilarious, you should however be wary that this could happen to your club as the government have provided no evidence of any wrong doing by Abramovich and are punishing Chelsea football club and its fans through what should be considered illegal sanctions.
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What jealously can you see here? Abramovich bought Chelsea with blood money and this has been coming. Considering how the Chelsea fans have acted over this and other previous incidents I couldnt care less tbh. They are one of the worst fanbases in the country.

Also evidence? I mean its well known Abramovich has links to Putin lol
 
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