Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2012, Yas Marina - Race 18/20
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the other triple champions didnt have the fortune of a stupidly competitive car for multiple seasons during there early career.
they all displayed signs they were capable of achieving it if they were given the car.
Drunkenmaster, I wish you would write a bit more in your posts, they always seem really short and blunt...
I actually was sad enough one day to do a word count of DM's posts in a single thread. I can't remember what thread it was but he had actually written more text in that single thread than I had written in my whole uni dissertation.
True, if slightly boring story.
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That you bring this up in a thread for a race where his teammate was openly told on the radio to let Vettel beat him and was pitted anyway in case he refused only goes to show how weak your argument is.
So do most drivers. The difference is that when something goes wrong in qualifying for a great driver, they can come back. Dont get me wrong - Vettel would have finished 8th or so anyway simply due to the quality of his car - but without the safety cars he would have been nowhere close to the leaders.
Starting in the pit lane was an advantage, as it let Red Bull alter the car. He should have been forced to start from 24th on the grid. On top of which, Vettel gets auto-passes on Toro Rossos. Vergne's move over to let him through was so blatantly uncompetitive that Toro Rosso should be disqualified from the Constructors Championship for it.
And when Jenson Button was in last place after a safety car in Canada, he went on to win. Why did Button do better? Answer: because he didn't make mistakes and whine like a spoiled baby about it. If Vettel hadn't crashed twice and had to replace his wing, he might well have won too. But he did, because he's a bad racer.
Starting in the pitlane was an advantage over starting last, but still a massive way back from starting 3rd which is where he would have been had they not messed up with fuel.
Starting 3rd and with Hamilton retiring Vettel would have won that race.
Which rule did they break?
Did he bully you at school or something?
Agreed, plus the luck with SC.
It was a poor car up until around Germany, he never done very much with the car up to then not sure how he dragged it round? He did not put it in places it should not be really. Being behind another team does not mean your car is a dog to drive either.
There are SO many things factually wrong with this I cant even be bothered to point them out
Coming from you it isnt that surprising
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And this has any relevance because?
The one that forbids teams running more than two cars. When you have a team who are racing everybody except their parent team, whose drivers they let through uncontested, that's an unfair advantage.
Yes, obviously I would have to have some kind of personal prejudice before I would deny Vettel's divinity.
When Maldonado goes up the side of someone into a corner trying to get past, everyone cries that he's a terrible driver who shouldn't be allowed on the track. When Vettel did it to Senna - silence. When Schumacher misjudges the speed of the car in front and has a mishap, it's because he's old and an embarrassment and he should retire. When Vettel misjudged Ricciardo's speed and had a mishap, he blames Ricciardo and all the fanboys rush to agree.
There's a difference between denying Vettels divinity and flat out laying into him at every opportunity like you are.
Your attitude is beyond that of someone who simply isn't a fan and into the realms of someone with some sort of personal grievence.
And lol at your Toro Rosso rant. There's no rule against owning more than 1 team and no rule about having to compete against everyone on track. The back end teams are routinely 'expected' to get out of the way by fans, commentators and drivers alike.
Your attitude is beyond that of someone who simply isn't a fan and into the realms of someone with some sort of personal grievence.
And lol at your Toro Rosso rant. There's no rule against owning more than 1 team and no rule about having to compete against everyone on track. The back end teams are routinely 'expected' to get out of the way by fans, commentators and drivers alike.
anyone else seen this? quite interesting, dont know what to make of it and dont want to get embroiled in a new flexiwing debate, but look at the height of the wing relative to the undernose bargeboard when the guy twists the camera's.
Planet F1 has some quality theories for this.
Lets not forget how Ferrari and McLaren made sure eveything that made the RB7 so dominant was banned by the FIA, some of it half way through a season. Imagine FIFA saying half way through a season that if a goal wasnt scored from at least 25 yards it dont count! Crazy rule change half way through a season, wouldnt happen. Get Twatmarsh to moan about it enough, tear up the rule book and start again.vettel clearly flatters the redbull if he were in the ferrari or mclaren he would have won the championship by now , lets not forget hos the bull was almost nowhere at the start of the season.
people always like to bring the best down just like they did with msc.
omg hes winning loads he must be in a car full of illegal parts and its all the traction control keeping vettel on the track.
omg he can barely hit an apex
its funny that even the other drivers have started to drag vettel down now just like senna did with msc.
maybe hamilton can hear the illegal parts rustling in the wind or alonso just knows RBR are cheating
Three words that are vital for survival on these forums: "Arknor is wrong".
Many people on here prefer to **** someone else off than offer any proof of what they think is correct. Personally i think Arknor just says it how he see's it, not to popular on here that.
And so have 3 F1 teams who have asked the FIA about it
rb have cheated 3 times this year so why not go all out and do it again
Other than the engine mapping rule change that lasted 1 weekend before RBR managed to convince the FIA to turn it back, what else was banned mid season that involved ripping up the rulebook?
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/8236929/F1-Drivers-Told-To-Mind-Their-Language
Funny
Now what do you all think? Does it represent a certain level of unsophistication not being able to articulate yourself and having to use swear words?
Or just simply perhaps they are still buzzing on adrenalin and the tongue is a little looser?
Personally I could'nt give a flying f<click>.
Funny
Now what do you all think? Does it represent a certain level of unsophistication not being able to articulate yourself and having to use swear words?
Or just simply perhaps they are still buzzing on adrenalin and the tongue is a little looser?
Personally I could'nt give a flying f<click>.
Its a live global broadcast shown before the watershed in a lot of countries, they should be expected to restrain their language in the same way as anyone else on TV should.
As amusing as I found it, its good that the FIA are clamping down on it.
As amusing as I found it, its good that the FIA are clamping down on it.
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Indeed they are. The difference is that the Caterhams, Marussias and HRTs get out of the way of everybody, but the Toro Rossos only get out of the way of Red Bulls. If you don't see why this is a problem, and why it is bad for the sport, then I don't know what to say.