Accelerator stuck @ 135mph

Enfield · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:10

NickXX said:
The brakes will be effective until all the boost is used - so it should be enough to stop the car. However after the boost is used they will be near useless.

Read the news report again mate.

He burnt the brakes out.

NickXX · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:12

Enfield said:
Read the news report again mate.

He burnt the brakes out.

I'm not talking about the situation anymore - I'm saying what happens when you kill the ignition. The brakes become near useless once the boost is all used.

The guy is clearly an attention seeking idiot, I'm sure it was a lot easier to stop the car than he suggested.

Simon · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:18

NickXX said:
I'm not talking about the situation anymore - I'm saying what happens when you kill the ignition. The brakes become near useless once the boost is all used.

The guy is clearly an attention seeking idiot, I'm sure it was a lot easier to stop the car than he suggested.

You will be able to use the brakes without the master cylinder servo. They won't be great but will certainly stop the car

Clarkey · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:22

all this seems highly unlikely, why on earth wouldnt you just kill the engine as soon as you noticed the throttle was jammed? And throttle dont just jam at *** by themselves, he would have had to have it floored for it to get jammed in that position, so you would know instantly it was jammed when you lifted your foot off. And a jammed auto shifter, Im not even sure thats possible.

laissez-faire · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:23

I do think people should get time to play around with cars in open controlled spaces. I have been lucky that my parents have a lot of land so I do often just take a car and think 'I wonder what happens if I....' so I try it and just see what happens. It obviously wouldn't be safe on the road.

NickXX · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:25

Clarkey said:
all this seems highly unlikely, why on earth wouldnt you just kill the engine as soon as you noticed the throttle was jammed? And throttle dont just jam at *** by themselves, he would have had to have it floored for it to get jammed in that position, so you would know instantly it was jammed when you lifted your foot off. And a jammed auto shifter, Im not even sure thats possible.

Yup - my thoughts exactly. Let's all step back from this and start again:

"I was in tears most of the time on the phone to the police - I really could see myself dying,"

"I took my foot off the accelerator because it's automatic - but I wasn't slowing down at all."

"He tried to put the car into neutral but the gears were jammed. "

"I survived the accident but I thought I was going to die in the fire."

Maybe my earlier comment of "attention-seeking muppet" were a little off the ball...

mrk · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:26

chopchop said:
you see your the type of person that would keep going at 130mph
the car was automatic, no engine ? no drive to the wheels..
but it will coast safely.

Yeah thanks for clearing that up :rolleyes:

I don't drive nor ever plan to drive an automatic so was only guessing...

Clarkey · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:28

I notice he has a lot of DVD's there, /me goes to look for 'omg i nearly died' posts on avforums.

Simon · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:28

This car is likely to be drive by wire rather than using a throttle cable too

chopchop · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:29

laissez-faire said:
I do think people should get time to play around with cars in open controlled spaces. I have been lucky that my parents have a lot of land so I do often just take a car and think 'I wonder what happens if I....' so I try it and just see what happens. It obviously wouldn't be safe on the road.

indeed. ive turned off automatics while driving, ive had accelerators stuck open, had cars on 2 wheels e.t.c and that was all at a very early age (14).

what i think needs doing is an IQ test, common sense test and more questions about incidents like this being encorporated into the driving test.

AtreuS · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:30

Im sure the car will be examined in detail and his story either corroborated or rejected and charges made. Time will tell.

I find the possibility of the accelerator AND the gears jamming a little odd but you never know.

Vertigo · 11 Mar 2006 at 15:52

Enfield said:
How can he put it into neutral if it were jammed mate?

And moreover would you risk turning the engine off in an auto that was locked in gear? I'd imagine a complete lockup of the rear wheels would result which wouldn't be very funny at 135mph.

Enfield · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:02

Vertigo1 said:
And moreover would you risk turning the engine off in an auto that was locked in gear? I'd imagine a complete lockup of the rear wheels would result which wouldn't be very funny at 135mph.

I gave up trying to argue, some people in this forum think they know all.

Just wait for the replies saying that you're wrong vertigo.

L0rdMike · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:06

Vertigo1 said:
And moreover would you risk turning the engine off in an auto that was locked in gear? I'd imagine a complete lockup of the rear wheels would result which wouldn't be very funny at 135mph.

That may be true as I know nothing about cars but they guy said he thought he was gonna die so if thats the case you should at least try.

chopchop · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:25

Vertigo1 said:
And moreover would you risk turning the engine off in an auto that was locked in gear? I'd imagine a complete lockup of the rear wheels would result which wouldn't be very funny at 135mph.

so whats going to lock the wheels ???

MrSix · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:28

Right, that's it - i'm going to record a video of me doing this on Forza motorsport so we can see the different scenarios

willd58 · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:30

Im quite shocked at how mean everyone is being about the guy. :confused:

Enfield · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:31

willd58 said:
Im quite shocked at how mean everyone is being about the guy.

They're called Keyboard warriers.

willd58 · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:33

Heh, im as guilty as most when it comes to keyboard warrioring, but its normally when angerd or threatned, im just confused about all the hating towards this guy.

Vertigo · 11 Mar 2006 at 16:54

chopchop said:
so whats going to lock the wheels ???

The torque convertor, by virtue of the braking effect the engine will place on it relative to the rest of the drivetrain. There's no clutch in an auto and the wheels are never fully disconnected from the engine. This is why you shouldn't tow autos more than a short distance at a low speed.