Advice for DIY install of bathroom and waterproofing walls - can I tile a dot and dabbed wall?

200sols said:
400mm with noggins, I just checked one of my old pics and they had noggins around the perimeter must've been put in by the house builders.
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Cool thanks, I shall fit the noggins!

How do you find the Grohe built in toilet by the way? Are you concerend for if/when it requires replacement/fixing?

Considering looking into them. All I need to buy still is the toilet, sink and the pick the tiles.
 
Buffman said:
Cool thanks, I shall fit the noggins!

How do you find the Grohe built in toilet by the way? Are you concerend for if/when it requires replacement/fixing?

Considering looking into them. All I need to buy still is the toilet, sink and the pick the tiles.
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200sols said:
All of the usual cistern stuff is replaceable through the front panel. Personally prefer the built in look, much cleaner lines.
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Fitted a Grohe one a few months back, absolute doddle to work with, managed to grab it pretty cheap on Amazon but just ignore the reviews on there.
The only tricky part I found was setting the bolt lengths for the pan and then attaching it, dropped the fittings a few times inside the pan :rolleyes:
 
If I could offer another snippit of advice without being ridiculed, I've found it very useful marking out where pipes and cables are sited underneath floorboards by drawing the pipes on the floorboard and adding the depth in cm to them.

So far I've managed to avoid drilling into anything vital as a result.
 
JRJ said:
Fitted a Grohe one a few months back, absolute doddle to work with, managed to grab it pretty cheap on Amazon but just ignore the reviews on there.
The only tricky part I found was setting the bolt lengths for the pan and then attaching it, dropped the fittings a few times inside the pan :rolleyes:
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I got it from amazon as well, the frame Inc cistern and face plate was cheaper than just the geberit cisterns I had used before!
 
200sols said:
I got it from amazon as well, the frame Inc cistern and face plate was cheaper than just the geberit cisterns I had used before!
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Yup found Amazon really cheap, think I paid £108 for the 1m version with everything apart from the pan.
 
Bug One said:
If I could offer another snippit of advice without being ridiculed, I've found it very useful marking out where pipes and cables are sited underneath floorboards by drawing the pipes on the floorboard and adding the depth in cm to them.

So far I've managed to avoid drilling into anything vital as a result.
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Aye ive done similar for other rooms.

Really I should do a build log for other rooms in the house, currently have a plasterer sorting out another room back from bricks

200sols said:
All of the usual cistern stuff is replaceable through the front panel. Personally prefer the built in look, much cleaner lines.
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OK cool thanks for the tips, I'll have to have a look on amazon at them, is soil pipe height / depth/ position the main criteria I'll need to measure before buying? (I'm sorting stuff out today then away on holiday for a week so will take measurements with me)
 
Buffman said:
OK cool thanks for the tips, I'll have to have a look on amazon at them, is soil pipe height / depth/ position the main criteria I'll need to measure before buying? (I'm sorting stuff out today then away on holiday for a week so will take measurements with me)
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Yes for a wall hung toilet you need to ensure you can fix it up to the soil pipe from the frame, there are lots of connectors available though for the soil pipe and the pan connectors so you can fit one in many spaces.
 
This thread is inspiring me to want to do the main bathroom in our new house myself. Not sure it's a good idea, but I can't afford £25k at the moment really.

I've been watching dozens of Roger Bisby's 'Skill Builder' videos on YouTube and I'm now basically an expert :p.
 
Participant said:
This thread is inspiring me to want to do the main bathroom in our new house myself. Not sure it's a good idea, but I can't afford £25k at the moment really.

I've been watching dozens of Roger Bisby's 'Skill Builder' videos on YouTube and I'm now basically an expert :p.
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£25k? You live in Buck House or what?
 
£25k seems to be an over estimate for DIY, even for a high end finish unless you just start spending silly money on things for the sake of it.

The biggest expense in a bathroom by far is labour. Individual components are not that expensive, you just need a lot of them. Generally you are looking at half of the cost being labour for non-diy.

3.5mx3.5m is a decent sized bathroom. Personally I would t fully tile one, it would ‘feel’ too cold/clinical for me. I much prefer tiling the wet areas, floor and use a softer finish to warm it up on the other areas. I completely get that is personal preference though.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
£25k seems to be an over estimate for DIY, even for a high end finish unless you just start spending silly money on things for the sake of it.

The biggest expense in a bathroom by far is labour. Individual components are not that expensive, you just need a lot of them. Generally you are looking at half of the cost being labour for non-diy.

3.5mx3.5m is a decent sized bathroom. Personally I would t fully tile one, it would ‘feel’ too cold/clinical for me. I much prefer tiling the wet areas, floor and use a softer finish to warm it up on the other areas. I completely get that is personal preference though.
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Sorry the £25k was for someone else doing it.

Get what you're saying about fully tiled / not.
 
Participant said:
This thread is inspiring me to want to do the main bathroom in our new house myself. Not sure it's a good idea, but I can't afford £25k at the moment really.
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I was in a similar frame of mind. We moved into our house last year and the bathroom/toilet situation was in dire need of revising.

By doing everything myself I've been able to build two new bathrooms (from scratch) and rebuild the existing downstairs loo and only eat £3k into our savings. Total cost spent is around £6k.
 
Participant said:
I tend to want all the best kit and fanciest tiles, and the bathroom is 3.5m X 3.5m and I'd want it tiled floor to ceiling, level access shower tray, decent valves etc.

Could easily run to £25k around here.
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Aye i live in Stratford also, I imagine more like 15k.
I'm doing the tanking, Unit fitting etc myself but got a load of plumbing /electrical done with the rest of the house renovation and will be getting a seperate tiler in for this job.

For me the priority was a good finish and bathrooms is always a bit of a mixed bag.
 
Buffman said:
Aye i live in Stratford also, I imagine more like 15k.
I'm doing the tanking, Unit fitting etc myself but got a load of plumbing /electrical done with the rest of the house renovation and will be getting a seperate tiler in for this job.

For me the priority was a good finish and bathrooms is always a bit of a mixed bag.
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I've never been happy with bathroom work I've paid other people for so far.

Plumbing shower pumps the wrong way round, tiling straight on nailed chipboard, ordering the wrong shower screen and telling me it was my fault.

Maybe I've been unlucky, but this is a big part of why I'm even thinking of doing it myself.
 
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First 2.4mx600mm board in (18mm chipboard d5 grade)

Took ages to get in, make cuts for pipework and mark up all the underneath pipework (this is an in progress photo and not final... With them all:eek:
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I put in 3 screws along the 600mm length (spax 60mm flooring screws) , glued the underside with d5 glue


Only need to put in 2 full sized boards and one half sized, but also need to put in a load of noggins one end.

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