Aero/Gains Thread

Shamrock said:
I've got a Bambino. I think I've got the old one gen one though with super crappy visor magnets! Had to buy some off ebay to make the visor more secure.

I got a short tail style TT helmet because I can be a bit like Froomey and try to chew my stem instead of having a still head.:D

Have you also considered the Lazer Wasp Air?
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Yeah read a few issues with the old gen, I would get the new 2016 pro one though and I am picking it solely because I love my Kask Mojito so know Kask stuff is decent and also because colour choice if anything, a lot more choice with the Bambino than the Wasp Air.

SoliD said:
I suffer this too and probably have similar ish sort of look. (and long arms) I'm going to try out full superman and get my arms out as long as possible, but need to find some longer extensions as mine are at the maximum limit.
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Longer arms will make it more difficult for you if siilar torso/leg wise :( I don't have particular long arms but what I do have is a proper inability to straighten my arms.... I have went my whole life not realising this, but my girlfriend noticed it and made fun of me and then at my physio last night I showed him (I thought it was normal) and he laughed also as my elbows lock out completely before my forearm is totally straight compared my upper arm... now on comparison to various other people I can see just how much my arms are limited in relation to what is "normal"... Obviously hasn't caused me any issues in life though as 28 years it's taken to even been seen as a thing.
 
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If you must pass up the aero gains, just buy the C-Originals helmet (you can get the same one direct from China for ~£60, search eBay for aero helmet).
 
Indeed, except no-one comes out of the tunnel with a Bambino. :p They do have a place in longer events though where fatigue sets in and you might struggle to keep a long tail helmet in place.
 
That's precisely my reasoning. A long tail helmet will probably be more aero but if you are sticking the tail in the air whilst staring at your stem it's going to be less aero than the shorty helmets.

Anyway, Bambino is good enough for Wiggo :p

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I have a sneaking suspicion that the Bambino may test fast if you ride staring at the floor, which is fine for the pros. Linda Villumsen was a lot like Froome at the Worlds TT last year and spent a good chunk of her ride staring straight down wearing a short tailed helmet on her way to winning. Doing that as an amateur will probably cut your TTing (and everything else) career short, hence why a long tail helmet is best.

The top guys can hold epic TT positions for 12 hours and beyond so it's not beyond us to hold a shrug for 10 miles. :D
 
One More Solo said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Bambino may test fast if you ride staring at the floor, which is fine for the pros. Linda Villumsen was a lot like Froome at the Worlds TT last year and spent a good chunk of her ride staring straight down wearing a short tailed helmet on her way to winning. Doing that as an amateur will probably cut your TTing (and everything else) career short, hence why a long tail helmet is best.

The top guys can hold epic TT positions for 12 hours and beyond so it's not beyond us to hold a shrug for 10 miles. :D
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With a long tail it will get in your head to stop you staring at your stem too much! Thats what I tell myself so I don't have to spend loads on a new helmet anyway! Just looking at my ToC photos and I'm so crunched. Need to get myself superman!
 
23 dead tonight on the same course as Sunday.
10 degree's cooler, slightly less wind.
273w NP so 11 more watts to take 10 seconds off.
Felt much better position wise with dropping bars and the new saddle but was moving around and had no consistency tonight. Had massage last night and legs were dull as hell so I was not in a good place tonight... Still, PB is a PB and is only the beginning.
 
So 21:40 last night.

Previous PB was 22:13, similar course, slight different layouts. Slightly more favourable conditions with a south west (but strong blowing)

https://www.strava.com/activities/587997018 P881 22:13

https://www.strava.com/activities/610360602 P881/R 21:40

No changes to position in this time, but the major change was the addition of the skinsuit. Massively tighter aero trip suit and socks. Power was 1W up average, 1W down normalised, and that was after few hard rides, so struggled to keep my head up at times.

Few more club mates have ordered the same, i'll report back on how they get on, but I believe I made some big gains just from the suit alone last night.
 
Nice one. I've been reading a lot about the "trip" aspects of these suits and the calf covers. That's very good gains considering the only thing changed was your suit/weather and there is really no difference at all in watts out/position. Impressive!

Conditions have been floaty as heck. I was out on Monday evening doing a TT session 3x5mins at >5w/kg and on my last effort I averaged 46.5kmh. I was pushing big watts but I felt very quick... 1002hPa @ 16degree's, muggy and showery throughout but not wet. Few degree's warmer and a more steady wind and I don't think up here conditions could be any more ideal than they were.
 
First 25TT last night in pretty naff conditions, wind from SW only averaged 38.5kmh on the way to the turn catching my minute and 2 minute man just before the turn. Then averaged 42.6kmh on way back. Road conditions utterly shocking, main A road for the entire area but it was truly bad and losing so much power barely able to even keep my arms on the pads it was really frustrating.

Time = 59:52
AP/NP = 238w/239w

Happy to nip under an hour for my first 25 but I worked way too hard for that mediocre time in all honesty.
 
xdcx said:
First 25TT last night in pretty naff conditions, wind from SW only averaged 38.5kmh on the way to the turn catching my minute and 2 minute man just before the turn. Then averaged 42.6kmh on way back. Road conditions utterly shocking, main A road for the entire area but it was truly bad and losing so much power barely able to even keep my arms on the pads it was really frustrating.

Time = 59:52
AP/NP = 238w/239w

Happy to nip under an hour for my first 25 but I worked way too hard for that mediocre time in all honesty.
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Great work to get under the hour. I'm hoping to smash my 25 time on Monday night with the new position and rested legs. Altho gonna be a bit more chunky and will have to be careful putting on my skinsuit after the past 4 days.
 
Contemplating risking a purchase of one of the Chinese zipp 808 nsw and testing it against a proper one to see difference in aero. Will price a front one up later and see if it's worth the risk.
 
SoliD said:
Contemplating risking a purchase of one of the Chinese zipp 808 nsw and testing it against a proper one to see difference in aero. Will price a front one up later and see if it's worth the risk.
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Would be interesting for sure! Let us know what sort of pricing it is approx. I won't ever bother with Zipp, too pricey for me, be a FFWD disc and F6R front for me in the future.

Just bought an immaculate Kask Bambino off TT forum so will have it for my next 10 on Wednesday. It'll be worth 30 seconds hopefully hehe.
 
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