Afghanistan - 20 years on

dowie said:
According to this guy the Taliban were already calling for reinforcements to come to Kabul as tensions were rising following US withdrawal:
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Dunno if it has been proved to be the work of ISIS or similar - according to some there are claims some Taliban moving into Kabul from more remote provinces are more hardline and duty bound to try and revenge past grievances despite what the Taliban leadership might want.
 
Yeah more than 10 in one small spot alone :(

I'd be careful without verified sources though - there are tons of videos and images from the recent Israeli action against Gaza going around being claimed as from the Kabul explosions.
 
deuse said:
Or better still.
Bedin should have kept CCR-B in place and moved people out faster.
The buck stops with biden.
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Does it?

Zeller added, “I want to go on one more point about this. This is critical. The reason why all these people are stuck in Afghanistan right now is because the visa program that was created to get them here, it was purposely shut down by the Trump and administration for the last four years. Now, the Obama administration has plenty to blame on that. They were not an effective processor for the first four years that they held office. But the latter four years of the Obama administration, its second term, they actually got the program functioning pretty well. The Trump administration came in and purposely destroyed it. The reason why all of these Afghans were stuck in Afghanistan for as long as they were in the first place is because those people made sure they couldn’t get out. As I said before, they’re as complicit as the Taliban are in these people’s deaths.”
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As far as I'm concerned, every US administration was at fault from the beginning to end.
 
StriderX said:
Maybe they should have thought about that when choosing to visit/live in the country in full knowledge that the US had decided to leave by May.
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A lot seem to be under the delusion the US wouldn't actually pull out of Kabul completely - even if the Taliban took over much of the rest of the country. People seem to have this strange condition in that respect where they superimpose what they want reality to be as if somehow if they believe in it enough that is what it will become for want of a better way to put it. See it a lot in the various COVID related threads.
 
deuse said:
Or better still.
Bedin should have kept CCR-B in place and moved people out faster.
The buck stops with biden.
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Absolutely , where are all the celebrity Biden supporters hiding now ? ,

This is worse than Saigon and I can’t see any nation buddying up with the US in a hurry again .

Just pray our boys get out safe now .
 
Bald-Eagle22 said:
Absolutely , where are all the celebrity Biden supporters hiding now ? ,

This is worse than Saigon and I can’t see any nation buddying up with the US in a hurry again .

Just pray our boys get out safe now .
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If we see US troop deaths especially out of this I'm not sure Biden will see out his term - with the general support for getting out of Afghan while it goes sort of OK his approval rating would bounce back in a few months when everyone had forgotten it but it won't take much for this to turn into a backlash not so quickly forgotten.

Which is probably one of the reasons Biden is being relatively timid here hoping to avoid incidents which would splash on him.
 
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