Nonsense, get a group of random strangers and get them in a room and pick up a weapon and see how they hold it. (I do weapon handling yearly)
Afghanistan - 20 years on
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Nonsense, get a group of random strangers and get them in a room and pick up a weapon and see how they hold it. (I do weapon handling yearly)
Soldato
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Soldato
Ah right cool, so what are you really saying here?
Those particular taliban were trained by coalition forces? I mean without any other evidence its possible they defected and joined the taliban i guess, but both of us are still guessing, the meme is worthless as was your point.
I picked up a nerf gun once
Oof tell me youre sas without telling me youre sas.
Caporegime
He's an animal.
Wut? I’m not a fan of communism. Weird you think you know me, when I literally have no idea who you are, I’m just addressing your revisionist history and arguing that actually, the sentiment expressed by soldiers currently, is that we went over there, and have achieved very little in 20 years, other than killing lots of civilians and enemy fighters defending their country.
I won’t be surprised if in the next 10 years we get another 9/11 in revenge for our brutality of Afghanistan, and this whole war machine will want feeding again.
What brutality? Could you be specific
Soldato
lol christ, you converted to wahhabi islam or summat? I would say most people have little respect for religious fascists, dont you?
It was a proxy war with Pakistan, so unless NATO were willing to wipe them off the map of course it was un-winnable.
Soldato
LOL, oh next youll be saying the taliban are 'freedom fighters' xD
I dislike them immensely and hope they all die of Covid.
Im just not an idiot and I can recognise that trying to claim they can’t fight or use basic modern skills and equipment, is stupid. That doesn’t mean I think they are good people.
Hardly. But facts are facts. I’m sure they think they are.
the people flying them are likely the people the allies trained though rather than the taliban.
people over play how hard it is to fly a helicopter though like it's some magic art, it's not hard to wrap your mind around how a rotor works.
I'm pretty sure I could take off, fly around and land again.
with a few minutes of someone telling be the basic controls, with only flight sim experience in games and flying RC helis for a hobby
flying from A>B likely ain't that difficult, but if something goes wrong obviously you don't have the training or familiarity to actually cope (although I'm sure most people with any interest know about auto rotation)
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Man of Honour
I think it will be a long time. As the people working on it say in that video, what they're doing is foundation work. The robots frequently fail to complete choreographed movements (the video stated that explicitly) let alone act autonomously. The usual videos we see online are the successes only. The robots are a long way from being able even to reliably move through unknown rough terrain and continue functioning. They're nowhere near being able to "be programmed with a soldiers knowledge". Or anyone's knowledge.
Then there are the ethical and practical issues of fully autonomous war machines, which are many. Boston Dynamics robots are very far from being at a stage where that's a relevant consideration, but it would be if there were robots that could be used as soldiers.
I picked up a nerf gun once
This person has clearly been trained by coalition forces. I am Rambo so I would know.
Commissario
I've done a handful of weapons handling courses (involving both serving and non-serving personnel) and on the evening of the very first one I did, all the attendees were in the pub and we were all holding our pints with our trigger fingers sticking out!
To suggest that someone's been trained by a specific group, just because they have trigger discipline is ridiculous.
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To suggest that someone's been trained by a specific group, just because they have trigger discipline is ridiculous.
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Yup used to play airsoft with a random bunch of both experienced and inexperienced players most used trigger discipline or quickly settled into using it.
Maybe an interim of remote controlled robots with soldiers safe in the base using headsets etc, human makes the decision while the robot navigates terrain and takes the hit. They already do that with drones so not unfeasible.
We all know Boston Dynamics is Skynet
They were never that disciplined before. They would have it slung over their shoulder or holding it with one hand, or at their waist. They have been properly trained by someone.
When western forces invaded the Taliban were terrible fighters and didn't really communicate between themselves. Almost all of the NATO soldiers killed were from IEDs, not face to face fighting. There was an instance where a single Gurkha killed 30 of them, he yeeted one of them off a roof.
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Soldato
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Classic.
yea Russians, Chinese, USA, Britain or some oil rich arab country
take your pick
Theres a 99% chance it was training by a NATO force. This is where the Afghan army has gone.