Afghanistan - 20 years on
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It's not genocide to go and wipe out a bunch of zealots.
To them you’re the zealot.
and they’d be right we’ve done far more to go attack them for their beliefs than they have ever done to us
We aren't murdering people because they don't believe in the man in the sky, or stoning women to death for not covering up.
Soldato
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Surprised the Taliban aren't carving a path straight to Kabul, surely that's the crown in their conquest, once they take the capital it's all over or are they preferring a drawn out siege of the city ?
No we’re dropping 5000 pound bombs on them because some people from a different country attacked New York but we buy oils off them so couldn’t retaliate directly but needed to please an angry electorate.
George bush “god told me to go i to Iraq”
Think of it more like a medevil conflict you need to acquire food and resources as you proceed to arm and feed your army. They have no major base to supply from it is a foraging army
You can’t go directly for the big siege because you can’t support the action. You also need to secure your flanks. They can wait for Kabul and not draw too much ire
Soldato
Who they going to wipe out, half the Afghan population? They never could wipe out the Taliban.
The Taliban have the support of at least half the population, the problem was with osama not the average Afghan.
20 years of death and destruction and for what?
An old saying "you may have all the watches but we have all the time".
Do you think the people who have lost family to bombs and drones have forgotten?
Meanwhile the yanks are sending a b52 to conduct more bombing in support of the Afghan regime at the same time showing there hypocrisy by supporting warlord dostum. A known war criminal.
The Americans never tried to talk to the Taliban after September 11 it was just let's go kill them all. All bunch of muzzies all the same...
If the Taliban do take over then they would be wise to talk to the USA and have diplomatic relations. People often learn from there failures.
The Afghan puppet government has done sweet FA for the country, armed gangs still terrorise the population outside the big cities, corruption is rife and economy is still a joke.
Soldato
Simple tactics. Spread the Afghan forces out to defend numerous locations around the country, and when they're defeated and you control those areas you move onwards to the next targets. Rinse and repeat until you make it to the capital and the defending army is depleted.
Caporegime
Interesting looking at the areas that have fallen. The majority bordering Iran. Sure there's no link.
Soldato
Yeah, nothing shady going on there. It's just a mere coincidence that the first targets were the border crossings with Iran and Pakistan.
People think dumb things like it's angry Afgan civilians who's families were killed by Americans so they're getting revenge - it isn't. It's foreign insurgents coming from outside Afghanistan who are funded by states like Iran and terror groups, probably also funded by foreign intelligence who don't like the Americans. That's how these things work.
Soldato
Pretty sure they did, they asked to hand over old Osama, apparently they wanted "proof" it was him that orchestrated 9/11, always makes me laugh when religious fanatics ask for "proof" of something, normally "faith" is good enough
Id be very surprised if the Taliban completely take over Afghanistan again anyway, I just cant see that happening, they're gonna run out out of steam or fighters at some point.
Yea well most people haven't a clue where Afghanistan even is on a map or thats its populated by many different ethnicities.
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Soldato
Needs to be some talks between the government and the Taliban. Otherwise it will be the 90s all over again, nasty civil war.
Soldato
Talks betwixt the two have been going on for months in Doha.
Soldato
Some of that yeah for sure but vast majority of the fighters are Afghan, people need to remember the Taliban was founded in Kandahar.
You forgot to add the tolerance shown towards the LGBT community out there. Ways of murder and torture are getting more creative.
Meanwhile the Afghan government is saying everything is fine :s
I don't know the ins and outs of strategic resources and terrain, etc. but if they don't pull back to and solidify around ~200 miles from Kabul and a separate pocket in the South West using their air capability advantage to link the two up then use that as a staging area to interdict Taliban supply lines while slowly retaking ground they are going to lose the whole country.
Man of Honour
Why? They've done it before. What's stopping them doing it again?
Soldato
I think people forget that, whilst the Taliban "took over" most of the country in the 90's civil war, they didn't actually "run" that much. The North was still run by the Northern Alliance and large area's of the mountainous Centre and West was still fairly autonomous, even when we were there that didn't change. It was mainly cities, the East and the South and anywhere near the Pakistan border that were "run" by the Taliban on a daily basis.