Airfix

Hi all,

My Google-fu is weak.

I wouldn't mind having a crack at making a few model cars, just as something to do, but I can't seem to find what I'm after.

Can anyone recommend a beginner-level sportscar model (I'm into modern LMP1/LMP2 cars and so forth)? Can't seem to find many, and when I do I've no idea if they're any good.

Thankoo.
 
Just bought a Tamiya 1/35 Panther (35065) :D

I've been doing this when I've had a spare few mins. I've got bits of it together, But i need to paints the some of the parts before I put them together (As I wont be able to get to it all when its together)

Now My problem is the kit doesn't list a set of colours to use in the instuctions (except for the figures). And I've had a Google and can't seem to find much info. So any help is appreciated. I'd like to paint it the same as the box with the 2 colour camo (Below), but also purchase the paints to do others (for example the three colour camo) for later models.

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Also would you all recommend Acrylics or Enamels?
 
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german tank camo is really quite easy as so many different styles and slight colour changes were present factory to factory, basically any desert sand colour and dark green (could even include a red/brown as this was also common), added to that tank crews applied there own camouflage with paint they were provided as well as paint that they found.

German tanks were originally delivered in a dark grey finish known as Panzergrau. This grey shade, which incorporated a blue element, was one of the most widely used and encountered of all German tank camouflage finishes, but after about 1942 or 1943 German tanks were delivered in an alternative sand-coloured shade which had originally been applied to Afrika Korps vehicles serving in Africa. This sand-yellow shade was also found to be very suitable for the conditions on the Russian steppes, but in 1944 tanks were again being delivered in the original grey finish. On occasion, tanks were encountered with a basic earth brown scheme, but this was in the early years of 1939 and 1940 only.

Tanks were rarely used in action in their basic colour schemes alone. In addition to the basic grey or sand yellow, tank units were issued with supplies of paint in shades of olive green, light grey, red-brown and dark yellow. These were applied by the tank crews themselves to suit local conditions, and were applied in a wide, combination of camouflage schemes and colours. The extra colours were either applied by brush of were sprayed on to the tanks using spray equipment issued at company level. On occasion there was no time to apply carefully worked-out schemes and a suitable colour was often applied by throwing the paint at the side of the tank from cans!

The colour combinations were many and varied. A common scheme was sand yellow overlaid by olive green patches or stripes. Some units used schemes which involved the use of the basic grey with red-brown, yellow and green patches. Schemes used were sometimes very elaborate when a unit had time to apply them. Some schemes used splinter or lozenge markings overall, a typical example being the yellow 'spotted' panzer grey overall finish employed in the pine forests of North-West Europe in 1944 and 1945. In the Normandy bocage some Panther units employed a complex lozenge scheme with red-brown and dark grey being the predominant colours.

In winter conditions, when snow covered the ground, German crews followed the usual pattern of daubing their tanks with white paint — not making their vehicles pure white but leaving enough of the basic colour to form a camouflage pattern. Whitewash was often used for winter schemes in preference to paint as it could be quickly and easily removed when the snow melted.

These finishes were applied over the basic colour scheme of the tank as delivered from the factory, and from early 1944 onwards tanks were delivered coated in a grey coat of 'Zimmerit'. This was a plaster-like substance applied over the whole of the tank which gave the surface a degree of protection from magnetic anti-tank devices likely to be applied by infantry tank-killer squads. Zimmerit was applied in a rough and corrugated finish which gave the vehicles to which it was applied a matt and worn appearance.


i prefer acrylic, but it really is down to choice.
 
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So i could probably just choose the paints by eye?

I guess there are Pros & Cons to both Enamel and Acrylic.

yeah, i'd go by eye. in early 1943 tank crews were shipped dunkelgelb (dark yellow?) (as well as other colours (rotbraun (redbrown) and olivgru (olive green))) in a paste form to apply by themselves over the Panzergrau factory basecoat, the paste could be mixed with any liquid (originally gasoline) but the liquid used would vary the colour, as well as a number of other factors. it wasn't until late '44 that factories were ordered to do this themselves so as to create a more unified appearance but even then camo would still vary. By the end of sept 44 factories were again allowed to vary the paint to dunklegrau if there was no dunklegelb available. once again orders changed and by christmas 44 the basecoat required at the factories had been changed to dunklegrun.

because different factories will have had different quantities of each of these available it would be presumable that no two panzers would roll out of two separate factories in the exact same shade of colour.

interesting stuff :)
 
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So i could probably just choose the paints by eye?

I guess there are Pros & Cons to both Enamel and Acrylic.

Very much so - panzers started out grey, then dunkelgelb (yellow) mid war, then a sort of late war heinz 57 where you have all the camo patterns and colours. I've seen all sorts, reds, yellows, then you get zimmerit and different types of armour. I'd be quite keen on an armour model but they scare me, precisely because the camo patterns are so complex.

I like acrylic over enamel myself - it's easier to clean up off the carpet. :D

/\ lol what he says..
 
I've been doing this when I've had a spare few mins. I've got bits of it together, But i need to paints the some of the parts before I put them together (As I wont be able to get to it all when its together)

Now My problem is the kit doesn't list a set of colours to use in the instuctions (except for the figures). And I've had a Google and can't seem to find much info. So any help is appreciated. I'd like to paint it the same as the box with the 2 colour camo (Below), but also purchase the paints to do others (for example the three colour camo) for later models.

My dusty 1/16 Tiger (build about 8+ years ago) Tamiya colours are as
follows XF61 (TS2) XF64 (TS1) XF60 (TS3)

I had to add the zimmerit effect to the Tiger using clay and the teeth of a
saw.

I am going to seal and weather it shortly as I never gave these a thought
when I build it.


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I've been doing this when I've had a spare few mins. I've got bits of it together, But i need to paints the some of the parts before I put them together (As I wont be able to get to it all when its together)

Now My problem is the kit doesn't list a set of colours to use in the instuctions (except for the figures). And I've had a Google and can't seem to find much info. So any help is appreciated. I'd like to paint it the same as the box with the 2 colour camo (Below), but also purchase the paints to do others (for example the three colour camo) for later models.


Also would you all recommend Acrylics or Enamels?

Acrylics for me.
If this is the same as one i got recently the blurb in the instructions tells you the colours and so on.
Check out netmerchants.com. They do a good range of specialist colours etc
 
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My dusty 1/16 Tiger (build about 8+ years ago) Tamiya colours are as
follows XF61 (TS2) XF64 (TS1) XF60 (TS3)

I had to add the zimmerit effect to the Tiger using clay and the teeth of a
saw.

I am going to seal and weather it shortly as I never gave these a thought
when I build it.

God that is a monster!! Nicely done.
 
That is awesome... Puts mine to shame at only 1/35 :(

My dusty 1/16 Tiger (build about 8+ years ago) Tamiya colours are as
follows XF61 (TS2) XF64 (TS1) XF60 (TS3)

Cheers for the colours.

I've chosen to go Enamel as I just realised I have 2 pots of Humbrol Enamel anyway. One which matches XF60 (Humbrol #83) and one close(ish) to XF61 (Humbrol #150). All I need is the XF64 (Humbrol #160) and the colours listed in the instuctions for the figures (although I've converted them from Tamiya to Humbrol/Revell Enamels (Using a couple of cross reference tables online).

Seems to me that I'll have all the colours I need for details from the figure paints. Am I missing anything for the main tank?
 
gotta love the King Tiger, my all time favorite tank, fantastic job you've done, particularly the zimmerit.

Tonyator, sounds like you are good to go, if you want some real inspiration take a look at http://www.missing-lynx.com/ particularly the gallery and the in-progress section of the forum, notice how the tank is almost completely assembled before painting. Good luck with the build, take your time and when something gets frustrating, put it down and come back later. Can't wait to see the result ;)
 
I was obsessed with airfix. I spent loads on a 1/48th scale F-16C blk 52 alobng with photoetched detail sets. Problem is I never finished them. I was getting pretty good too. I actually won a competition once in the ATC, entering a 1/72 F-14D "Bombcat". I really enjoyed it. I'll probably take it up again when I'm retired (LOL, I'm only 22!). Into RC models now though.

I have a few untouched kits lying around which you could have for a couple of quid? Off the top of my head, a 1/72nd AirFix Spitfire, and 1/144th Mig29 and Su25.

pieman and skii, those models are incredible. I remember reading modelling magazines thinking I'll never get to that level!!
 
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I'm getting there slowly with this.. It is a very time consuming hobby!

Can anyone suggest some varnish that I can perhaps spray on via my airbrush? I've just tried to use the Revell clear gloss (thinned with water as suggested) and it blocked my nozzle! So I wont be trying that again in a hurry!

I need to apply a soft varnish, then apply the decals, then re-varnish it, then wash it with pro-modeller (add the weathering etc).

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What about "Klear" furniture polish.


Loads of info in here http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

I've tried to get some - seems to be discontinued, or on the way out of stores in the UK. I couldn't get any yesterday and I tried several places. Someone said that the stuff you get now uses a different, less effective formula. I have also been recommended something called 'Quick Shine' which is available in Lakeland stores but there isn't one near to me so if I do go that route I will have to order it online. But I think I'd rather use a product designed specifically for model plastics, like this Revell Gloss I have. It even says it can be used in an airbrush - maybe I should thin it even more and try again.
 
Just read through that link as it has loads of info on it.

You can just brush it on as well.

I am in going to ASDA tomorrow anyway so I might grab some - if you still
can't find any I would post one to you.
 
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