He admits that the tone he took when discussing the subject was inappropriate and apologised.
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He admits that the tone he took when discussing the subject was inappropriate and apologised.
I urge everyone to read this to gain an understanding into why the Hillsborough memorial is important to the fans and the club.
Well, I've read it, but I still don't see anything past the maudlin/'woe is me' situation that is referred to on that very page.
I honestly don't get why keeps it fresh. Mourn by all means, but why revisit it constantly in this way? Kevin Loftus and Christopher Speight were brutally murdered by turks when in Turkey to watch their team play just over 10 years ago. They are remembered by the club, but the club doesn't mark the date by not honouring fixtures posted on it.
Liverpool haven't been scheduled or asked to play on the 15th.
I'm not sure why it's seen as such a big deal by others that Liverpool don't want to play on that day. If it doesn't effect others (which it doesn't) then why not let those that were effected do as they please?
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The key bit is we choose as a club to commemorate those fans in that way. Leeds could do exactly the same if they wish - as could Rangers, United etc - if they chose to. But those clubs choose to play.
Coupled with the fact, as that article points out, that there are lots of unanswered questions still surrounding the event that mean people are still looking for justice. I suggest that if all of the required papers and documentation was released years ago then perhaps it wouldn't still be such a sensitive issue.
The basic fact is that this all comes down to respecting the wishes of the club and the fans. Why is that so hard for everyone to do?
Coupled with the fact, as that article points out, that there are lots of unanswered questions still surrounding the event that mean people are still looking for justice. I suggest that if all of the required papers and documentation was released years ago then perhaps it wouldn't still be such a sensitive issue.
The basic fact is that this all comes down to respecting the wishes of the club and the fans. Why is that so hard for everyone to do?
Yes, but if every club did that each time there was a tragedy or loss, eventually there'd be no days left to actually play football.
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but they don't so what's the problem? why not just respect the wishes of our club?
Nonsense. Even if every club in the football league refused to play on a certain day, it still wouldn't be a problem.
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NOt just football, again that is the point Liverpool fans don't seem to get, if EVERY tragedy to date, and every future tragedy all added up to days we couldn't do things on, life would become a joke of 365 days off a year to mourn.
As for not effecting anyone else, thats an incredibly naive way to look at it. The FA and everyone had bent over backwards so for years Liverpool never HAD to refuse to forfill a match, and yes, that is indeed effecting other teams, just because Liverpool fans choose to ignore it doesn't make it any less of a reality.
You can be damn sure, DAMN sure that Liverpool if they were in Chelsea's position would be argueing over better timing of the match, and if it wasn't Liverpool involved this weekend, I'm 100% certain Chelsea wouldn't be playing on the Sunday, its as simple as that.
IIANM it has affected Chelsea negatively.
No it hasn't. As I mentioned already in this thread, Liverpool played City on the Sunday in the League and both were then scheduled to play their League Cup quarter finals on the Tuesday instead of on the Wednesday when the other two quarter finals took place. It's far from certain that Chelsea wouldn't have been asked to play on the Sunday regardless of Hillsborough.
And again as I've said before, a very simple way of solving this would have been to schedule the Semi finals so that they're a week apart. Regardless of Chelsea's congested schedule, playing two games on the same pitch within 30 hours is far from ideal.
The FA could reschedule our cup game to next week or theirs, it was their choice.
Liverpool FC choose how they wish to mourn the deaths of Hillsborough, no one else can/should tell them how to do it and it is as simple as that. Same goes for anyone else who wishes to mourn/pay their respects.
Wrong.
If the FA choose to not bend over backwards for them it would come to a decision as to whether Liverpool forfeit or accede.
the point is, no one else makes a song and dance about things like liverpool
yes, we all know it was awful but come on, it's been 23 years, be pro-active, play in their memory!, lot's of teams have been affected by tragedy and don't play the victim like only liverpool could
i wonder if the inquest will unearth some shocking home truths about how the liverpool fans (some, not all) acted on the day.
they're showing their true colours by bringin alan davies' mum into it.
They weren't murdered on the football pitch live on TV in front of family, friends and the players. You may not understand and that's fine but if those two players had been murdered on the football pitch and then over two decades later there were still unanswered questions surrounding the circumstances of the death you may feel differently.
They were murdered in front of their respective families and other fans and close friends.
I didn't think there were any murders at Hillsbrough. Much less on the pitch itself.
What are these unanswered questions that stop Liverpool as a city moving forwards from this tragedy?
And as pointed out Liverpool would have agreed to move in the first place to the Sunday to get their TV money.
And it wouldnt surprise me one bit if the club refused to play on that date, so don't know why you're posting 'Wrong'.
Firstly, the reason it is constantly so fresh in the memory is that the truth has never been released.
Secondly, nice playing the victim comment that's real classy.
Third what do you expect these home truths will be? Our fans ****ing on dead bodies and looting them? The people sending those comments to Alan Davies aren't really true fans or decent human beings with any sort of sympathy for Hillsborough either.
They agreed to the League game months before they knew that they'd be in the League Cup quarter finals or that they'd be asked to play on the Tuesday rather than the Wednesday. And as I said, the football League confirmed that had Stoke made it through to the quarters, they would have moved their game to the following week.
There was no logical reason for Liverpool and City having to play Sunday and then again on the Tuesday. They could have easily scheduled the League Cup games for the Wednesday instead or even the following week. They chose not to though, which is why it is very possible that the same could have happened to Chelsea.