Alan Davies comments

IINM you have kids Cliffy, put yourself in Anne Williams position. It has been decided for her that her son was dead or brain dead by 3.15pm and therefore the decision not to allow medical help onto the pitch did not lead to her sons death. There is witness testimony from an on duty SWPC (female PCSO) that at 4pm her son was alive and actually calling for his mother before later dying due to a lack of very basic medical attention.

Would you not want those responsible for not allowing the medical help onto the pitch to be held accountable? And would you not be aggrieved with those who put in place the 3.15pm cut off time in order to stop those responsible being held accountable?

Yup I remember seeing them both on north west tv, very sad seeing them both talking about it, it was disgusting what happened and afterwards all the cover ups, blaming it on being drunk/hooligans, disgrace how people have been treated from Liverpool just because of stuff a minority did.
 
IINM you have kids Cliffy, put yourself in Anne Williams position. It has been decided for her that her son was dead or brain dead by 3.15pm and therefore the decision not to allow medical help onto the pitch did not lead to her sons death. There is witness testimony from an on duty SWPC (female PCSO) that at 4pm her son was alive and actually calling for his mother before later dying due to a lack of very basic medical attention.

Would you not want those responsible for not allowing the medical help onto the pitch to be held accountable? And would you not be aggrieved with those who put in place the 3.15pm cut off time in order to stop those responsible being held accountable?

It's very hard to give an accurate opinion on how i'd feel. I think i'd be inclined to think that yes there were mistakes and perhaps they could have been saved but it's time to let go, nothing is going to be changed and it's been such a long time.
 
Didn't 'the truth' get brought up last month with some documents which the unbearable Hillsborough lot furiously denied? They want 'the truth' but seemingly can't handle it very well.

Seriously disappointing that Davies apologies for his comments despite being 100% right.
 
Didn't 'the truth' get brought up last month with some documents which the unbearable Hillsborough lot furiously denied? They want 'the truth' but seemingly can't handle it very well.

Seriously disappointing that Davies apologies for his comments despite being 100% right.

Unbearable Hillsborough lot? :rolleyes:

And no, the truth didn't get brought up last month. The leaked document was the opinion of one person at the time. That opinion has since been proven to be factually wrong.
 
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Didn't 'the truth' get brought up last month with some documents which the unbearable Hillsborough lot furiously denied? They want 'the truth' but seemingly can't handle it very well.

As you said SOME (not all) documents were leaked and they highlighted information that was passed to the Cabinet from the Police. This information has been rules as incorrect and inaccurate by both the Government at the time and subsequent enquires. However, many questions still remain unanswered and those documents have never been made public.
 
Didn't 'the truth' get brought up last month with some documents which the unbearable Hillsborough lot furiously denied? They want 'the truth' but seemingly can't handle it very well.

Seriously disappointing that Davies apologies for his comments despite being 100% right.

wow you are nice chap
 
I don't think Davies said anything wrong. He has a valid opinion, and while I don't feel strongly on the matter, I don't think he was wrong. Big fuss over nothing.
 
Putting the Alan Davies comment aside for one moment, I couldn’t think of a more fitting and moving way to commemorate the lives of those lost at Hillsborough than to have played the Semi on the anniversary date, against Everton of all teams. I’m sure that everyone, including the FA, would have seen the occasion as appropriate. It’s a unique opportunity missed in my opinion.

I know it sounds quite harsh, but it is a sad fact that life does go on. Nearly all of us here have been or will be effected by bereavement at some stage. It doesn’t mean that anyone has to forget but I’m sure the families would rather their loved ones are remembered graciously and respectfully rather than marred with controversy and although Alan's comments were arguably wrong, the reactions doesn't help or solve anything.

Go back to Alan’s comment. I can appreciate what he was trying to say and everyone has a right to an opinion but it was delivered inappropriately and disrespectfully. His comments towards Kenny Dalglish were shocking. There are always better ways of putting your point across.
 
Liverpool haven't been scheduled or asked to play on the 15th.

I'm not sure why it's seen as such a big deal by others that Liverpool don't want to play on that day. If it doesn't effect others (which it doesn't) then why not let those that were effected do as they please?

I personally don't believe Liverpool should have a choice. They should play whatever dates they are assigned even if that includes the 15th. By refusing to play on this date it does affect others.
 
Shock horror - the Liverpool hate mob are at it again, whilst AD's comments were insensitive, are death threats really justified? No is the only answer
Not surprised, they have form, even threaten their own, remember the treatment that was dished out to Stevie G when he was looking like he was off to Chelski - certain sections of their support are absolute scum and the world would be a better place if they were all jailed.

<rant over>
 
lolliverpool fans. Death threats over that?
AD's tone wasn't the best, but he had valid points.
If anything Liverpool should play the game in memory of what happened, dedicate it to those who died. If you say no we don't want to play it because of what day its on, fine you forfeit the game, counts as a loss.
 
You will get suspended for that and it's really not worth it

Probably was, the only sad bit is the _________ gets away with it :)

lolliverpool fans. Death threats over that?
AD's tone wasn't the best, but he had valid points.
If anything Liverpool should play the game in memory of what happened, dedicate it to those who died. If you say no we don't want to play it because of what day its on, fine you forfeit the game, counts as a loss.

If anything they decide how they wish to mourn, not you or anyone else.

Shock horror - the Liverpool hate mob are at it again, whilst AD's comments were insensitive, are death threats really justified? No is the only answer
Not surprised, they have form, even threaten their own, remember the treatment that was dished out to Stevie G when he was looking like he was off to Chelski - certain sections of their support are absolute scum and the world would be a better place if they were all jailed.

<rant over>

And every set of fans have their scum, but do single out Liverpool fans, I mean you think completely idle death threats are anything compared to the **** that actually goes on outside the stadiums, particularly certain european games.
 
It's about time someone gave things a shake. Liverpool (Edit : The city/people as a whole I mean) has a history in recent years of going far beyond dignified grief into melodramatic, aggressive acting.
 
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