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Alder Lake-S leaks

Purgatory said:
https://twitter.com/TweakPC/status/1455951263737303052?s=20

Because so many asked. I switched from win 10 to 11. Performance in CB20/23 is nearly the same. i7 12700K DDR5 4800. Also did single-core test this time.

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https://twitter.com/TweakPC/status/1455961649282752525?s=20

Mhhh, i just did CB23 on the i9 12900k with different PL settings 125/150/180/241 watt. Thats the results. What do you think? More than 150 watt does not seem to be that usefull...

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So just an extra 25w gets the 12900k 20% performance gain, super impressive! But that's the peak of the curve and no reason to go over that if you care about performance efficiency
 
Shaz12 said:
I wonder how these early spec CL40 DDR5 kits compare with DDR4 kits with tight timings in gaming. Really need to decide between DDR4 and DDR5.
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The way it often works with DDR is the early kits are often not much faster than the mature, high speed kits from the prior generation. So top tier DDR2 was faster than early low spec DDR3 for example.
 
rush_syndrome said:
It says delivery in two weeks did they confirm a shipping date?
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It still says processing here on the website I have had confirmation though in an email, The email says delivery was free with a £4.95 shipping discount, I still don't know how long they're going to be, If it is 2 weeks I'll have to get an air cooler, Will update when I know more.

Update yeah your right it says in the store lol well that's just an absolute shambles from Corsair I have a good mind to ship this Elite 150i Capellix back to them and shove it, No way I am paying twice for an air cooler for the sake of 2 weeks.
 
HangTime said:
The way it often works with DDR is the early kits are often not much faster than the mature, high speed kits from the prior generation. So top tier DDR2 was faster than early low spec DDR3 for example.
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HUB did a 'prediction' video where they guessed it was going to be "not much better than DDR4" and we'll probably see "5 to 10%". In a comment, after they'd done some benches they said regarding the video "yeah we hadn't tested back then, but we had a good idea of what to expect.". Seemingly sneakily confirming their prediction was correct.
 
V F said:
I have to say. Those Windows 11 frames truly are horrendous. What were Microsoft thinking...
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They were not thinking that's the problem with them, every windows 11 user I know spends most of their time removing the windows 11 redesigns and features and trying to get back everything that was useful from previous versions of the windows OS. Windows 10 was same too never ending adjusting it at first till they slowly gave up and added what users wanted back or some tool or regedit to enable the hidden feature that was nerfed by them just to make it look like they updated something.
 
TBF the frames look much nicer with the system dark theme. I have no probs with it really.
 
Purgatory said:
https://twitter.com/TweakPC/status/1455951263737303052?s=20

Because so many asked. I switched from win 10 to 11. Performance in CB20/23 is nearly the same. i7 12700K DDR5 4800. Also did single-core test this time.

6GdOjlN.jpg




https://twitter.com/TweakPC/status/1455961649282752525?s=20

Mhhh, i just did CB23 on the i9 12900k with different PL settings 125/150/180/241 watt. Thats the results. What do you think? More than 150 watt does not seem to be that usefull...

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I wonder why his final PL241 is only registering 217.8 on the graph, can his cooling not handle it, or an overheat?
Surely something more to be gained.
 
Looking at this R23 single core benchmark, are we getting about a 10% improvement from Rocket Lake?

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r23_single_core-15

It's about apparently a 9% performance boost, comparing the 12700K and 11700K, reportedly both running at 5ghz.

Although, I'd assume without any of the performance/latency issues that the 11th gen has.

A lot more impressive comparing the 12700K to a 9900K (or Comet Lake), both at 5Ghz, with a 33.3% improvement in single core performance.
 
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Destination said:
I wonder why his final PL241 is only registering 217.8 on the graph, can his cooling not handle it, or an overheat?
Surely something more to be gained.
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He states on the tweets in that tweet he didn't have a heat issue and it is just how it behaved and tapered off the performance increase and wouldn't use more power. He also stated he has more than one motherboard and they behaved differently some would allow more power while others were actually allowing even less power.


From what I understand he's using the motherboard that is allowing him to use more power. So maybe BIOS issues/limits or VRM issues/limits on some boards.
 
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Adrian1976 said:
It still says processing here on the website I have had confirmation though in an email, The email says delivery was free with a £4.95 shipping discount, I still don't know how long they're going to be, If it is 2 weeks I'll have to get an air cooler, Will update when I know more.

Update yeah your right it says in the store lol well that's just an absolute shambles from Corsair I have a good mind to ship this Elite 150i Capellix back to them and shove it, No way I am paying twice for an air cooler for the sake of 2 weeks.
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I feel your pain. I've been through countless options looking for any feasible solution and just ended up getting hold of a MSI MEG CORELIQUID S360 360mm AIO. It will have to do until I can get a proper CPU block. Fortunately I have another machine I can put it on after I'm finished with it but the wallet has taken a beating in the last 24 hours :p
 
Dave2150 said:
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The chart is out of date lovely Dave.
no one OCs ryzen in that fashion.
It is also complete and total power draw, so a system at stock will still pull less than the intel systems processor at stock.
Considerably less.

It will be interesting to see perf per watt figures, but general raw figures and how everyone tweaks it to get the best perf from this range of new chips.

I'd also like to point out that your 8 core processor isn't on that list, nor have you ever managed to make it run CB23, in its OCed or indeed its stock form, and post upon the CB23 thread.
You've had long enough. Post the results.
 
Purgatory said:
He states on the tweets in that tweet he didn't have a heat issue and it is just how it behaved and tapered off the performance increase and wouldn't use more power. He also stated he has more than one motherbaord and they behaved differently some would allow more power while others were actually allowing even less power.


From what I understand he's using the motherboard that is allowing him to use more power. So maybe BIOS issues/limits or VRM issues/limits on some boards.
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It's not heat - he had the 12900k on a 360mm AIO and temp peaked at 80c on the 241PL
 
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