Alder Lake-S leaks

Game · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:16

RavenXXX2 said:
Don't think I'm going to bother going from a 5600x to the 12600k for gaming, not worth it.

it would be pointless

untill you see a performance drop /quality of life there is never a reason to upgrade the cpu unless your flush with cash of course

mearle73 · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:16

Perfect_Chaos said:
It's certainly not what i expected, the numbers look good but only a bit better than AMD in most of those, changing platforms for that would not be worth it if those results are accurate IMO.

If those numbers are correct,Im glad I held off pre-order.

Game · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:17

Perfect_Chaos said:
It's certainly not what i expected, the numbers look good but only a bit better than AMD in most of those, changing platforms for that would not be worth it if those results are accurate IMO.

most systems will be gpu bound

LtMatt · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:18

Were the Linus results at 1080P? If so I would imagine that's a best case scenario for a performance difference in games. Would expect there to be little to no difference at higher resolutions.

Shaz12 · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:22

LtMatt said:
Were the Linus results at 1080P? If so I would imagine that's a best case scenario for a performance difference in games. Would expect there to be little to no difference at higher resolutions.

Yes they were at 1080p.

Grim5 · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:36

12900k is hot though aye.

Linus benched using a Noctua D15 and the 12900k was hitting 90c in multithreaded tests (240 watt load)

alec · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:39

Intel review guide sorta forces to compare 12900K to 5900X and 12600K to 5600X, which looks very favorable for Alder Lake.

I think comparison should be to 5950X and 5800X instead, going by very likely incoming price drop for Zen3, and also their target audience.
From Linus' slides, I'm not impressed about top model.
12600K is a winner tho. If it is also easy to overclock above 5GHz, looks tasty

scubes · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:40

Who's all getting it still .

Poneros · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:42

Sadly at 1080p, with what's in-game benchmark tool rather than actual gameplay tested, and with 0 RT tests. Yeah, those are damn worthless tests. Expected no less from LTT. Still, it's nice to see what a champ the D15S is for gaming, really no reason to bother with an AIO for me.

The numbers for the 12600K looked good vs 5600x... until you price out the parts, and at least where I am mobos cost >2x and DDR5 let's not even start, meanwhile CPU cost is the same. Worth it? Meh.

I'll wait for the German reviewers to show some proper testing.

Deleted User 456458 · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:47

Can’t wait for real ddr5 Samsung kits to come and then oh boy….. These highly choked jedec, low bin xmp are hot trash but still doing well.

Btw, if you’re good at ddr4 tuning, you’ll be fine on ddr5 as well. Just be patient for high end bins. If you’re more plug n play, get what’s available.

scubes · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:48

Do use think this would be a good upgrade
From a 9700k@5 .1?

Deleted User 456458 · 4 Nov 2021 at 07:54

scubes said:
Do use think this would be a good upgrade
From a 9700k@5 .1?

I’m in a 9900k 5.2 and 16/4400 mem. The scores I compared against, I get massacred. I only do sim driving so the boost there for me is incredible really and that’s just on tuned micron ddr5 which is the lowest performing ddr5 out there right now. I got a board and chip but will chill until 36/6600 or better shows up.

I went with a 12900k and Apex btw

Dave2150 · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:03

Producivity numbers are huge, really impressive. Sure it uses more power, though it'll complete whichever task it's running faster too, so this needs to be considered.

Example, Blender completing 16% faster on a 12900k vs 5950x, while also being cheaper to purchase.

Also assuming this is bog standard slow 4800Mhz or 5200Mhz memory Linus is using - the 6000Mhz, 7000Mhz RAM results should be further improvements.

Purgatory · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:15

Intel Core i9-12900K and Core i5-12600K review has been leaked
Published: 4th Nov 2021, 08:05 GMT

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-and-core-i5-12600k-review-has-been-leaked

TNA · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:18

Shaz12 said:
Linus accidentally posted a review video and took it down.

From Reddit: For those that missed it: 12900k is beating 5900x in 4/5 games (5900x won flight sim by a few fps). 12900k is def the new gaming performance king. Uses 100W more power in rendering but around the same power in gaming as 5950/5900x. 12600k performance is only slightly below 12900k and is beating 5900x in gaming.

TLDW: Intel is faster but uses up to double power in stuff like cinebench, but in gaming it wins and uses equal or less power. 12600k is the real winner delivering gaming results better than the 5950x

https://imgur.com/a/r9lOl2L

Well if that’s the case then nothing to write home about then. Was expecting a lot more based on all the hype. Still good to see Intel catch up though.

Basically for gaming and value the 12600K is where it will be at from what I can see.

Grim5 · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:19

scubes said:
Do use think this would be a good upgrade
From a 9700k@5 .1?

yes

Grim5 · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:20

TNA said:
Well if that’s the case then nothing to write home about then. Was expecting a lot more based on all the hype. Still good to see Intel catch up though.

Basically for gaming and value the 12600K is where it will be at from what I can see.

What's actually going to be even better is the 12400f but unfortunately it's not available at launch but for valuebthe 12400f should kill it

Purgatory · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:21

Dave2150 said:
Producivity numbers are huge, really impressive. Sure it uses more power, though it'll complete whichever task it's running faster too, so this needs to be considered.

Example, Blender completing 16% faster on a 12900k vs 5950x, while also being cheaper to purchase.

Also assuming this is bog standard slow 4800Mhz or 5200Mhz memory Linus is using - the 6000Mhz, 7000Mhz RAM results should be further improvements.

Also not cheaper to purchase... The platform is a lot more expensive comparing a x570 same board to a Z690 and then add the DDR5 memory prices and a new cooler. It's way more expensive when you add it all up, the cpu price is there as a way to push the platform (making it look cheaper but reality is it's not when you add everything up needed).

Please no fake cheerleading.. Intel have done ok but power use is still silly and the platform is expensive.

Dave2150 · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:29

Grim5 said:
What's actually going to be even better is the 12400f but unfortunately it's not available at launch but for valuebthe 12400f should kill it

Agreed. It'll be the value king, second to none at that price.

Plus it's terrible choice (IMO) to invest in DDR4 at this point. Z690 has Raptor Lake as a drop in upgrade. Perhaps Intel will become charitable in the light of competition from AMD and also make Meteor Lake compatible with Z690 - either way it's a platform with an upgrade path, DDR5, PCIE v5 etc.

Tomas Chabada · 4 Nov 2021 at 08:29

Dave2150 said:
Producivity numbers are huge, really impressive. Sure it uses more power, though it'll complete whichever task it's running faster too, so this needs to be considered.

Example, Blender completing 16% faster on a 12900k vs 5950x, while also being cheaper to purchase.

Also assuming this is bog standard slow 4800Mhz or 5200Mhz memory Linus is using - the 6000Mhz, 7000Mhz RAM results should be further improvements.

5950X is faster and consumes half the power.