How much do you have to spend ? Then people can work out what is best for the budget you have. These are all so close now that it basically comes down to price and the budget you have.
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How much do you have to spend ? Then people can work out what is best for the budget you have. These are all so close now that it basically comes down to price and the budget you have.
So from the thoughts on Lninus' leaked video I still stand by my gut feeling that whilst on DDR4 ADL is still going to be very fast, it's not rocket science that DDR5 will be a bit faster still but, the big but, will get even faster over the next 12-24 months due to how scalable ADL is and as someone above said, an upgrade path opens up in various avenues for everyone who has already jumped onto ADL in one variation or other.
RAM will be cheaper then, mobo prices will be cheaper too so either way nobody has lost out early adopting IMO. You always pay a small premium buying into any new tech whether computers or smartphones or TVs etc but for once in a long time, every consumer is a winner now given how close things are between the competition in terms of price vs performance but also how close that performance gap is from one brand's lower model to the other brand's top model lol.
I know for a fact I'm very excited to get built and up and running having upgrading from 6th gen it's gonna be a huge increase in productivity workflow!
Just waiting on the actual written reviews now to see some hard numbers and hardware unboxed comparison as those sorts of reviews I get more out of than opinion reviews without numbers to support them.
I'm really interested in seeing how far I can stretch my current Vengeance 3600MHz CL18, like can I run it at 3200MHz and CL16 and get better performance with the 12700KF for workflow stuff thanks to the lower latency? I have seen instances where I've used nearly all 32GB of RAM running Lightroom and Photoshop so I have a decent scope to upgrade to 64GB or even 128GB end of the year if needs be so can decide on what speed to go for if the performance scaling path shows itself to be usable here too.
RAM will be cheaper then, mobo prices will be cheaper too so either way nobody has lost out early adopting IMO. You always pay a small premium buying into any new tech whether computers or smartphones or TVs etc but for once in a long time, every consumer is a winner now given how close things are between the competition in terms of price vs performance but also how close that performance gap is from one brand's lower model to the other brand's top model lol.
I know for a fact I'm very excited to get built and up and running having upgrading from 6th gen it's gonna be a huge increase in productivity workflow!
Just waiting on the actual written reviews now to see some hard numbers and hardware unboxed comparison as those sorts of reviews I get more out of than opinion reviews without numbers to support them.
I'm really interested in seeing how far I can stretch my current Vengeance 3600MHz CL18, like can I run it at 3200MHz and CL16 and get better performance with the 12700KF for workflow stuff thanks to the lower latency? I have seen instances where I've used nearly all 32GB of RAM running Lightroom and Photoshop so I have a decent scope to upgrade to 64GB or even 128GB end of the year if needs be so can decide on what speed to go for if the performance scaling path shows itself to be usable here too.
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So it will be Computerbase.de for my lunch read then. While the i9 buyers don't look for value, the 12600K only really makes sense with DDR4 so will have to see how much performance DDR4 looses compared to DDR5.
About £460-470
Can get a 5800x and good b550 board for a lot less with a current 15% off on a well known selling site, but it ends today so got to be quick haha
I'm playing at 1440 rtx3070ti and I also stream and record while gaming
Comparative system cost was always going to be the issue, I made this comment about a week ago. Its slightly unfair as only high end boards are available for ADL but when you can get a decent performing AM4 MB and RAM for less than the cheapest ADL MB alone, then you have to lump on the extra cost of early adoption new DDR5 RAM the CPU price comparison feels like a mute point.
Both seem like "dead end" upgrades personally. If moving to ADL ideally you'd go for a DDR5 motherboard (and potentially benefit from faster RAM down the line, and *maybe* another generation of CPU will drop in)
A 10700k with your existing board and ram is probably the most cost effective option, and then move to ADL or Zen4 later?
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I think the real let down it the price you need to pay to get on to the motherboard ladder, the cheapest board OCUK have listed is £153, and as much as I love ASRock there is no way I'd trust the power delivery on that board, with a 'K' chip, and for it to work at its best. So if you were thinking of a 12600K + DDR4 and board, plus suitable cooler, you're are probably spending about £150 more than the 5600X/B550 (or X570) with the same RAM, and a small squirrel blowing on it to keep it cool. 
Oh and the extra cost of electricity over the life span of the part, lets not for get the average unit cost is well over 23p now.
Oh and the extra cost of electricity over the life span of the part, lets not for get the average unit cost is well over 23p now.That's how I'm feeling at the moment.
Worked out I can get a 5800x and a b550 board for nearly £50 less than a z690 gaming x ddr4 and a 12600kf
tradition I think
skylake was commonly SKL, kabylake KBL, coffee lake CFL, comet lake CML
Edit: actually these are Intels own designations, usually followed by a letter indicating desktop (ADL-S), mobile (ADL-P) etc.
It is personal and that's exactly how it reads. If you question someone's character and motive, that makes it personal.Exactly, well said.. I hope Matt does understand that, it's nothing ever personal.
It's easy to make walls of text attacking someone then say oh its not personal. Anyway, it is what it is and people are like that unfortunately.
I took some advice from other members and just use the ignore feature now when needed.
Don't forget Cake!
I wonder if that will get factored into reviews since the CPU has to be cheaper to balance out the extra cost of the Board/RAM.
That is just how Intel stacks it chipsets.
Wait till this afternoon then if it's only £50 difference, what motherboard are you thinking about for the 5800x and z690 ? It may come down to which motherboard offers you more.
Also not cheaper to purchase... The platform is a lot more expensive comparing a x570 same board to a Z690 and then add the DDR5 memory prices and a new cooler. It's way more expensive when you add it all up, the cpu price is there as a way to push the platform (making it look cheaper but reality is it's not when you add everything up needed).
Please no fake cheerleading.. Intel have done ok but power use is still silly and the platform is expensive.
Dave2150 said:
Producivity numbers are huge, really impressive. Sure it uses more power, though it'll complete whichever task it's running faster too, so this needs to be considered.
Example, Blender completing 16% faster on a 12900k vs 5950x, while also being cheaper to purchase.
Also assuming this is bog standard slow 4800Mhz or 5200Mhz memory Linus is using - the 6000Mhz, 7000Mhz RAM results should be further improvements.expensive.
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