Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set

mrk said:
Hehehehehe.



I fired a GPMG at the MoD Defence Munitions for work experience back in the 2000s. That was a mega experience, also got to hold the Walter PPK used in the Bond movies. Won't be able to do either of these things again due to political bureaucracy no doubt.
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Firing a weapon can feel empowering. I see why the yanks love them so much but we have it right in this country with a pretty much blanket ban on them.
 
It’s normal for blanks to have a small ‘projectile’, particularly on a self loading gun because you need something to create a little back pressure otherwise the gun will not self load.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
It’s normal for blanks to have a small ‘projectile’, particularly on a self loading gun because you need something to create a little back pressure otherwise the gun will not self load.
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It is with automatic weapons but bolt action rifles and pistols have a crimped end.
 
something daft already!! said:
It is with automatic weapons but bolt action rifles and pistols have a crimped end.
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No, it isn't normal, a blank firing attachment (BFA) is used to push gasses back for automatic or semi-automatic fire, the rounds with the crimped ends are used whether firing (semi)automatic or not.

In fact using blank rounds single shot as Army cadets do with their non-automatic rifles (gas parts removed and larger cocking handle for kids to hold) is a bit more dangerous as all the stuff just comes out of the barrel whereas with a regular L85 rifle or GPMG the attached BFA stops some of that.
 
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From the videos she appeared inexperienced and having completely the wrong mindset and attitude for that position - but the question is then why was she there.
 
Rroff said:
From the videos she appeared inexperienced and having completely the wrong mindset and attitude for that position - but the question is then why was she there.
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She clearly convinced those hiring her she was fit for the job. I suppose it's part of the culture of 'fake it until you make it': sometimes you fail. And this time failure came with disastrous consequences.

plasmahal said:
She'll be the scapegoat and Baldwin will get an easy ride.
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No, not scapegoat. She was the armourer and the guns were her responsibility. She failed to execute that responsibility.

But apparently she faces a maximum of only 3 years in jail and it's already been nearly 3 years, so she may walk free.
 
I'd not seen before they claim to have evidence she brought a box of live ammo on to set which wasn't kept account of.

Can see in the court footage she knows she is screwed.
 
plasmahal said:
She'll be the scapegoat and Baldwin will get an easy ride.
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I don't think Baldwin will get an easy ride either, he's part owner of the company, was a producer on the movie (which is a management position) as well as the person who actually pulled the trigger (and been caught lying about it). I think he's in pretty hot water too at this point.
 
Maximum sentence is something like 18 months in prison, which I doubt she will get. Very lucky, considering the usual American system of sending people to prison for years and years.
 
andybird123 said:
I don't think Baldwin will get an easy ride either, he's part owner of the company, was a producer on the movie (which is a management position) as well as the person who actually pulled the trigger (and been caught lying about it). I think he's in pretty hot water too at this point.
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Time will tell on that one. I'm predicting no jail time for him, hence the easy ride.
 
ColdAsIce said:
Maximum sentence is something like 18 months in prison, which I doubt she will get. Very lucky, considering the usual American system of sending people to prison for years and years.
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18 months seems light for causing the death of someone though neglect.

People get a lot longer than that just for firearms violations, which seems odd.
 
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