Alien: Romulus - Fede Alvarez (Evil Dead) to write/direct

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Trailer must have went down well. Everyone seems to be geeking out :D
Yup

IIRC Prometheus showed what sort of tech was available at the bleeding edge years before the events of Alien, meanwhile the equipment that the Colonial Marines were using in Aliens wasn't much advanced over the old Nostromo in Alien despite a 70 odd year time lapse.
Looking it up Prometheus (luxury bleeding edge ship) was launched in 2091
Ripley was born in 2092
Nostromo answered the (warning) call in 2122
Ripley is recovered in 2179 and goes back to LV427 meeting Hicks, Newt and co.
Ripley is cloned in 2379
:D Heck when they got their pulse rounds taken off them Hicks pulled out the ole faithful Ithaca Model 37 :D
 
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Trailer must have went down well. Everyone seems to be geeking out :D

:D Heck when they got their pulse rounds taken off them Hicks pulled out the ole faithful Ithaca Model 37 :D
:D I'd forgotten that, but again tried, tested and trusted ;)
Presumably after 200+ years it's extremely reliable if possibly not made of the original materials, and sometimes you just don't drop old faithful when it does the job fine and is cheap/easy to use (I wonder how much a pulse rifle round costs vs a shotgun shell?;)).

I think there are still some models of guns used in the armed forces etc that are based on designs that are a hundred years old or thereabouts now, often with updates to the materials and changes to solve problems discovered previously.
IIRC the AK47 is nearly 80 years old for the base design, and it's still being made and updated/adapted for different specialist roles, I think there is a shotgun that uses a a mechanism based/adapted from it.
 
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:D I'd forgotten that, but again tried, tested and trusted ;)
Presumably after 200+ years it's extremely reliable if possibly not made of the original materials, and sometimes you just don't drop old faithful when it does the job fine and is cheap/easy to use (I wonder how much a pulse rifle round costs vs a shotgun shell?;)).

I think there are still some models of guns used in the armed forces etc that are based on designs that are a hundred years old or thereabouts now, often with updates to the materials and changes to solve problems discovered previously.
IIRC the AK47 is nearly 80 years old for the base design, and it's still being made and updated/adapted for different specialist roles, I think there is a shotgun that uses a a mechanism based/adapted from it.

Yeah loads of firearms are based on or still using tech from a long time in the past the M2/Browning machine gun for example is WW1 era design and even that leans on older work.
 
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seems to be a Colony ship like Covenant.

Ah, that makes sense then, cheers for the info.

Watching the trailer again it looks like they're meant to have grown up on one of the colonies and presumably have passed university/got jobs that involve access to space travel and want off the dead end so probably around the same age Ripley would have been when she started working for WY's space ops (the timeline shows she was around 28 when Nostromo took off for it's last voyage).

As above, cheers for the info!
 
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:D I'd forgotten that, but again tried, tested and trusted ;)
Presumably after 200+ years it's extremely reliable if possibly not made of the original materials, and sometimes you just don't drop old faithful when it does the job fine and is cheap/easy to use (I wonder how much a pulse rifle round costs vs a shotgun shell?;)).

I think there are still some models of guns used in the armed forces etc that are based on designs that are a hundred years old or thereabouts now, often with updates to the materials and changes to solve problems discovered previously.
IIRC the AK47 is nearly 80 years old for the base design, and it's still being made and updated/adapted for different specialist roles, I think there is a shotgun that uses a a mechanism based/adapted from it.
No reason while a well-cared for Model 37 couldn’t still be serviceable after a couple of centuries. With no rifling in the barrel to wear out, it would be corrosion and/or damage to the bolt locking surfaces which would see such a weapon scrapped.

Ithaca are still making the Model 37 today and there’s zero reason why someone wouldn’t be making them during the timelines of the Alien universe, given that colonists would probably consider a super reliable self-defence weapon a must have when any sort of help could be weeks away.
 
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No reason while a well-cared for Model 37 couldn’t still be serviceable after a couple of centuries. With no rifling in the barrel to wear out, it would be corrosion and/or damage to the bolt locking surfaces which would see such a weapon scrapped.

Ithaca are still making the Model 37 today and there’s zero reason why someone wouldn’t be making them during the timelines of the Alien universe, given that colonists would probably consider a super reliable self-defence weapon a must have when any sort of help could be weeks away.

Kind of weapon as well which tends to be crated and stored away in large quantities using grease preservatives, etc. which will happily sit there for a very long time, ammo would be another story though - even with proper storage it tends to hit a cliff at around 70 years and generally isn't advised to shoot shotgun shells after 45 years max (some much lower than that).
 
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I hated the look of Prometheus. Super high tech, pop up huds. Just didn’t feel like Alien.

Also doesn’t seem very robust. Navigating deep space and all the potential hazards you want some more simplistic and easily maintained.
 
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Its getting a R rating for the US release.

 
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Kind of weapon as well which tends to be crated and stored away in large quantities using grease preservatives, etc. which will happily sit there for a very long time, ammo would be another story though - even with proper storage it tends to hit a cliff at around 70 years and generally isn't advised to shoot shotgun shells after 45 years max (some much lower than that).
Shotgun ammo gets a bad rep for longevity because of poor sealing of the paper and early plastic casings. Sitting on a shelf in Grandpa’s shack in Fudville, Kentucky for a couple of decades didn’t help as the early smokeless powders didn’t care for damp conditions.
 
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I think that's the point, like in Alien - most of this crew won't be up to it :)
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Alien was a horror sci fi about relatively normal people (space truckers/space cargo ship crew) disturbing a monster, not a bunch of people who were prepared for the monster and went in looking for it.
Even Aliens was about people going in who were not really prepared for what they'd find despite being trained as military and having had a survivor warning them (and then finding something worse than the warnings they'd heard).
 
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I think that's the point, like in Alien - most of this crew won't be up to it :)

True, but the crew in Alien all looked "capable/competent" in the roles, so it was setup to be a shock when we find them out of their depth in that situation (up until Dallas death) even though we knew what would happen. Those "youngsters" however don't look remotely capable/competent to start with (which seems to be a specific director/story choice worth exploring) so they look like fodder instead. Above was mentioned a possible reason for their apparent young age and I hope its for a good story reason like that, rather than just "we wanted pretty young people" which would be dumb.
 
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The funny thing is "the youngsters" are about the same age as Ripley was (canonically she was 28 when the Nostromo left earth and 30 chronologically in Alien but possibly biologically still 28*), and she was the most competent/capable character in 4 aliens films, and 20's and 30's is about right for a lot of crew on all sorts of ships especially for lower ranks.

It's the whole thing where people look old/young based partly on the clothing style, language etc and how you associate it.


*Assuming she entered cryosleep not long after launch and was only awake long enough for the essential work when they picked up the cargo. iirc in Aliens they entered cryo very quickly after heading out and woke up late, which makes sense as it massively reduces consumables and means you get away with a lot less in the way of "human comforts" if your crew are only awake for a few days at a time.
 
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