Alien: Romulus - Fede Alvarez (Evil Dead) to write/direct

I watched this last night, overall I really enjoyed it and I feared for the crew multiple times. Great tension, lots of homage to the original.

But I have a LOT of questions.

1 - How did that crew on the Space Station get their hands on all those face huggers and cryofreeze them. They must have already had them before capturing that Queen? from space.

2 - Why did they need the Queen when they already have those face huggers...I would presume they know what they do base on the research they are already doing. It seem an unnecessary risk to take, I guess they really wanted a Queen Xenomorph.

3 - Is it me but the speed of which this Xenomorph go from ingestion to "birth" then to grown full size is like 10x faster than other movies.
 
1 - They reverse engineered and "3D printed" the huggers from the original alien they brought aboard.
2 - Dunno, I must've been distracted because I don't remember anything about a queen.
3 - Yep, that was ridiculous, especially the last one + I have no idea why it looked like an engineer, but I'm sure someone will waffle something up.
 
I watched this last night, overall I really enjoyed it and I feared for the crew multiple times. Great tension, lots of homage to the original.

But I have a LOT of questions.

1 - How did that crew on the Space Station get their hands on all those face huggers and cryofreeze them. They must have already had them before capturing that Queen? from space.

2 - Why did they need the Queen when they already have those face huggers...I would presume they know what they do base on the research they are already doing. It seem an unnecessary risk to take, I guess they really wanted a Queen Xenomorph.

3 - Is it me but the speed of which this Xenomorph go from ingestion to "birth" then to grown full size is like 10x faster than other movies.
1) I thought the movie said they cloned them somehow from the Nostromo Alien?

2) What do you mean about the Queen? They weren't after a Queen AFAIK

3) Yes, that was ridiculous
 
1) I thought the movie said they cloned them somehow from the Nostromo Alien?

2) What do you mean about the Queen? They weren't after a Queen AFAIK

3) Yes, that was ridiculous

Point 2

The crew on the Spaces Ship managed to overcome that Xenomorph they brought on board, and then its guys spilled down to all the decks below. Is that not how the lower level end up swapped with Xenomorphs? As a result there would have been lots of eggs, then possibly the crew went to take out and failed and they got captured and hence on the walls. Also there was the blue light on the floor, as a reference to the original where the rooms of eggs was.

That's how I understand it....

Otherwise I guess the Xenomporh they brought on board to those that lives in the bottom deck are separate?
 
I watched this last night, overall I really enjoyed it and I feared for the crew multiple times. Great tension, lots of homage to the original.

But I have a LOT of questions.

1 - How did that crew on the Space Station get their hands on all those face huggers and cryofreeze them. They must have already had them before capturing that Queen? from space.

2 - Why did they need the Queen when they already have those face huggers...I would presume they know what they do base on the research they are already doing. It seem an unnecessary risk to take, I guess they really wanted a Queen Xenomorph.

3 - Is it me but the speed of which this Xenomorph go from ingestion to "birth" then to grown full size is like 10x faster than other movies.

3 ingestion to birth yes, very quick compared. But birth to full size, in my opinion.. .no .
If you rewatch Alien, the birth happens, they have a quick meeting about how to search and then go hunting, Brett finds the snake esq discarded skin and is quickly picked off by a full size Xeno, there's no sense any great amount of time had passed.
On a related note, the cocoon was cool , fills a gap in that lifecycle.
 
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3 ingestion to birth yes, very quick compared. But birth to full size, in my opinion.. .no .
If you rewatch Alien, the birth happens, they have a quick meeting about how to search and then go hunting, Brett finds the snake esq discarded skin and is quickly picked off by a full size Xeno, there's no sense any great amount of time had passed.
On a related note, the cocoon was cool , fills a gap in that lifecycle.
You are forgetting that in Alien, they bound Ash body, carried it to the airlock and had a little funeral (kind of)

That would have taken some time.
 
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Made it to the Cinema to watch it yesterday and I really liked it, there were a few 'memberberries that felt a little off, but overall I really liked it.

My thoughts in reply to some of the other comments.

The film feels very much like someone read the Gibson Alien 3 script and went from there, whilst the Rook/Bishop thing is almost straight from "Out of the Shadows" by Tim Lebbon.

The alien semi hive on the other half of the station - we only ever got told by Rook who was playing the humans in order to complete his mission that there was only ever the one live alien onboard (if he'd said "we had to abandon the other station" they'd have ran/done anything they could to avoid it), and whilst that was likely early on that's not to say there were not others later on but contained on the other half of the station.
Same with the frozen face huggers, there were IIRC 36 on ice on the half of the station with Rook and the dead alien, but what if those were just the samples that had been stored, with more samples that were intended for testing or even the research was being duplicated to some extent on the other half of the station (the whole Twins thing), or they were using the face huggers in some sort of testing.
Those sample holders could also have just held failed experiments that had been destroyed (although that seems unlikely). IIRC having the "dangerous" work done in one facility and the "clean" work done in another would make sense given the station design (theoretically fairly easy to isolate/control what moves across by the looks of it), ties in with the way Wayland Yutani has been shown to work in canon (often hiding the nasty stuff from the normal staff who might panic/tell the authorities/try to stop it), and also mimics a lot of real world research projects where the macro scale work might be done in one building and the micro scale in another, as the risks/needs of the two are different, it also means you can store the successful frozen samples away from any non frozen much riskier samples that you might using.

We also know that IIRC even a "drone" can create eggs, IIRC that's canon in the films and the books (I think it's in the Alien book and might have been filmed/cut from alien) as a way for a lone, isolated alien drone to create a hive, the Queen basically comes along when there is the potential for a full hive in order to provide the eggs for it and results in the creation of the other types of alien such as the warriors and workers. The drone is basically a jack of all trades including egg creator but it might take weeks to do what a Queen can do in a day. So if the lone alien managed to escape for any length of time there is the chance it could lay/create at least one egg.

With reference to the speed of the alien growth, in the official books there is a lot of suggestion/outright claim that the aliens can control how fast they reproduce/grow to full size - they are already known to basically be able to survive almost indefinitely and in almost any environment, which means they have to have some control over their metabolism. Basically they can grow faster or slower depending on what works best for the conditions including external threats* (IIRC even in the films the time from impregnation to bursting varies).
In the films with the exception of Romulus we've never IIRC had a definite timeline for how long the entire thing has taken, Romulus lets us see it happen in the space of a day, Alien shows us the impregnation, and Kane going through the burst potentially only hours later and no definite timeline between that and the full grown alien - except that it probably happened in under a day.

Basically my take on the extra huggers and drones is that either they were doing experiments on the other half of the station, possibly the "live" ones with active facehuggers and a drone and it fell apart, but they managed to largely contain it, whilst the half Rook was in was the more advanced/less risk of escaping experiments (they moved the frozen huggers over, and did the microscopic and modified dna work there), or the drone was active over there for long enough to either create eggs, or damage a facehugger storage or disposal facility.


For reference the Alien recovered to a space station for genetic manipulation was largely the basis for the Gibson Alien 3 script set after Aliens, and also included it affecting other species such as the rat (IIRC in Romulus you see something happening to the lab rat that was "safe" for a fraction of a second, and the remains of possibly the same rat or an earlier one), and humans in a way that is very similar to what happened to the foetus/baby. Whilst the very rapid change from the "infection" is from Gibson's A3 script and IIRC promethious (one of the reasons I didn't mind parts of Promethious so much was that it did tie in to GA3).

*In the books/films the aliens are meant to be able to communicate with pheromones or something similar to some degree (as well as some sort of psychic link), so potentially the embryo/chestbuster could be triggered to grow fast if there is plenty of food or a higher risk.


In short I liked it, and to my mind most of it makes sense within what has been shown in Alien, Aliens, and the official canonical books. I'd actually like to see it again on the big screen, but that isn't going to happen before it leaves the cinemas so I'm definitely going to be getting the home video release, probably in 4k so I can pause and rewind it in comfort.

And sorry for the long rambling post, it's very late.
 
I didn't know ovomorphs can be produced from hosts from the first Alien movie (Dallas deleted scene). Is that why Ridley Scott doesn't acknowledge the Queen?
 
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I didn't know ovomorphs can be produced from hosts from the first Alien movie (Dallas deleted scene). Is that why Ridley Scott doesn't acknowledge the Queen?
I was aware of the egg morphing scenes with Brett and Dallas from the first movie (horrific), but had no idea (until yesterday) that Scott took issue with the concept of a Queen in the xenomorph life cycle (random Youtube video I saw)

So this is probably the reason.....however both can exist I believe......the egg morphing a last ditch solution to propagate the species and create face huggers when there is no queen to lay eggs?
 
Really enjoyed this right up till the last 10 minutes, this felt like you was in the Alien's universe and the atmosphere / set designs were great to look at. It gives the aura of a film that had a massive budget compared to what it was.

Only criticism I have on the visuals is the CGI Rook.
 
I was aware of the egg morphing scenes with Brett and Dallas from the first movie (horrific), but had no idea (until yesterday) that Scott took issue with the concept of a Queen in the xenomorph life cycle (random Youtube video I saw)

So this is probably the reason.....however both can exist I believe......the egg morphing a last ditch solution to propagate the species and create face huggers when there is no queen to lay eggs?

That is how I've understood it, the alien is the "ultimate organism" when it comes to survival and adaptation, so it would make zero sense for the species to die out if only a non queen (the queen being a one per hive entity) were left. It also means that if the alien does it early on it doesn't really matter if the original creature gets killed as long as it's lived long enough to leave a replacement hidden away somewhere.
It also ties into all sorts of known organisms in nature, we've got frogs and fish that can change sex if only individuals of the same sex are left in isolation, we've got species of snake and lizard that have been observed to have "virgin births" (where the animal has been on it's own since hatching, but created fertile eggs), and other animals that can self fertilise or cross fertilise depending on the situation.

So the idea that the alien can produce it's own successor makes sense, and IIRC it's how the initial queens for isolated hives come about.
 
I wasn't aware.of this at all. It's good to include that logic but just surprised it wasn't made clearer to non hardcore fans.
 
To think that they were apparently going to send it straight to streaming.

It's safe to say it's already made a profit at this point, I don't think the advertising budget was huge either tbh.
It’s great to see. This, Deadpool and Twisters tearing it up at the box office with close release dates. Some have divided opinions but that’s normal.

Hopefully Hollywood is starting to learn. Make films that people want to see and don’t Alienate your core audience.
 
Watched it, would happily split the film in half

First half was grand, solid 7, suspense, told a story with backstory, main actor bit flakey, everyone else quite solid, face hugger arrives, things go back.
Felt when they superaccelerated things, that's when it took a complete nosedive.
Second half, utter twaddle, saved only by the zero grav swim thru acid scene, WTF do they always harp back to the unexplainable black goo.
Its faeces in space from that point, as 'anything' can happen, to anyone, in any way, at any rate or speed.
Oh I know, I'm pregenant and I'll shoot myself with goo, although I was kinda unconscious when they discussed this previously, and decided not to.
If they'd left goo out of it, had a queen running about at the end instead of basketball smiler I might have enjoyed the end.

Awful second half, visuals were spot on, acting from the lead was grand at this point, but it was just brain melt, like the damn goo.
The premise seemed to be they got to the aline, to get him on board, to reverse engineer the goo out of him, and let the plot progress, even though they should know absolutely nothing of the goo at all.

meh
 
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