All Football Fans In Here

silverpaw · 18 Feb 2003 at 14:46

Originally posted by Robert
i would like to point out it ******* annoys me to no end when you call united scum.I never (feel free to prove me wrong) called any other team by terms like 'scum' etc.I have done 2 but to people such as Gilly , this was simply because it was ******* annoying !! And i would like it to stop as i never refer to a team by 'scum' or anyother word

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Gilly · 18 Feb 2003 at 14:59

Unfortunately I cannot disclose what I believe to be the cause. it would be most unfair in the current environment.

If anyone wishes to contact me in regards to anything about happenings on this forum, or has any queries about what I've said on this forum they are welcome to talk to me on MSN, my address is in my sig.

I disagree with the comment in your third paragraph. The implication that by calling Manchester United 'scum' we are implying that all of their fans are also scum. This is not the case.

I am going to use the word hate here, but this is hatred in a footballing sense. This is different to hatred in Real Life™ to me, I believe there to be a very different definition of the two.,

I feel hatred for 'Sir' Alex Ferguson. I feel hatred for most of the Manchester United players. I even feel hatred for some of the fans. For this to be replicated to each and every fan is untrue. Many of the fans (the ones that would never be classed as a football fan by many of the users of the sports forum) that don't even follow the results, but when you ask them who they support, their instant answer is "Manchester United"

These are the ones bringing the bad name to the club. The ones who have no idea what it is to play football, nor even go to a match, yet will indignantly declare their team as the best, though they know not WHY!

Scum is a term used very commonly throughout English football, so to me, to see it banned from this forum (which is inherently dominated by football) would be a farce.

Originally posted by Robert
i would like to point out it ******* annoys me to no end when you call united scum.I never (feel free to prove me wrong) called any other team by terms like 'scum' etc.I have done 2 but to people such as Gilly , this was simply because it was ******* annoying !! And i would like it to stop as i never refer to a team by 'scum' or anyother word

It would seem that silverpaw finds this as laughable as I

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:06

Whats the problem ? if your laughing at what i say atleast back it up ? If this is the case i will humbly apologise.But i cannot recall when i have 'abused' other teams :confused:

i have called leeds scum and ACTUALLY said in the post it was due to your words by calling united scum everytime i don't give a damn what your 'meaning' of the word is but to me scum is a degretory remark whick should be banned.

wassap · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:12

I feel hatred for 'Sir' Alex Ferguson. I feel hatred for most of the Manchester United players. I even feel hatred for some of the fans. For this to be replicated to each and every fan is untrue. Many of the fans (the ones that would never be classed as a football fan by many of the users of the sports forum) that don't even follow the results, but when you ask them who they support, their instant answer is "Manchester United"

Sadly i will have to agree with gilly here.

I am going to use the word hate here, but this is hatred in a footballing sense. This is different to hatred in Real Life™ to me, I believe there to be a very different definition of the two.,

Nail,hammer, head

the reason why i dislike man u, is part jealosy and part hate, im jealous of the success they have over the last 10 yrs, the way they played footy etc, what i hate is the way the media portrays them as the greatest, mat busby as the greatest and alex f too, their attitude when at the top is basically tipified in roy keane, basically arrogant. then u have the glory hunter element who refuses to believe anything before 1991 and the premiership ever existed

silverpaw · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:15

Originally posted by Robert
Whats the problem ? if your laughing at what i say atleast back it up ? If this is the case i will humbly apologise.But i cannot recall when i have 'abused' other teams i have called leeds scum and ACTUALLY said in the post it was due to your words by calling united scum everytime i don't give a damn what your 'meaning' of the word is but to me scum is a degretory remark whick should be banned.

You refer to "united" in reference to Manchester United, while protesting against the use of the word "scum". For some of us using "United" in reference to Manchester United is as derisory as use of "Scum" is to you. You also use far too many swear words, maybe you should try Thesaurus if you can't think of civil terminology.

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:18

Why do I get the feeling nothing is gonna change as a result of this thread..

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:20

i tried to voice my opinion and apologised.Yes i am using the term 'united' for manchester united.I am trying to say for people like silverpaw why can't you click your brains into gear and think of something better to call us than scum

well then look the meaning of scum and its a hell of a lot worse then united thank you very much , in my opinion your just being VERY pedantic.Also i will use Man utd but i am sorry to say i can't remember ANYONE actually saying they hated people using united in reference to manchester united , but maybe i've just not seen it...

> outside this thread.

silverpaw · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:33

Originally posted by Robert
i tried to voice my opinion and apologised.Yes i am using the term 'united' for manchester united.I am trying to say for people like silverpaw why can't you click your brains into gear and think of something better to call us than scum

lol, I NEVER refer to Man Utd as "scum" although I've used "Manure" a few times.

Gilly · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:36

Originally posted by wohoo
Nail,hammer, head: ) the reason why i dislike man u, is part jealosy and part hate, im jealous of the success they have over the last 10 yrs, the way they played footy etc, what i hate is the way the media portrays them as the greatest, mat busby as the greatest and alex f too, their attitude when at the top is basically tipified in roy keane, basically arrogant. then u have the glory hunter element who refuses to believe anything before 1991 and the premiership ever existed

Originally posted by silverpaw
You refer to "united" in reference to Manchester United, while protesting against the use of the word "scum". For some of us using "United" in reference to Manchester United is as derisory as use of "Scum" is to you. You also use far too many swear words, maybe you should try Thesaurus if you can't think of civil terminology.

Originally posted by dirtydog
Why do I get the feeling nothing is gonna change as a result of this thread..

Are you definitely sure it needs to? What has changed since the times we had no arguments?

Originally posted by Robert
i tried to voice my opinion and apologised.Yes i am using the term 'united' for manchester united.I am trying to say for people like silverpaw why can't you click your brains into gear and think of something better to call us than scum : )

There are plenty of things I can think of to call 'Manchester United' - but scum is a term used by most for Manchester United.

Originally posted by Robert

well then look the meaning of scum and its a hell of a lot worse then united thank you very much , in my opinion your just being VERY pedantic.Also i will use Man utd but i am sorry to say i can't remember ANYONE actually saying they hated people using united in reference to manchester united , but maybe i've just not seen it...: )

Most people's dislike of the term 'United' being used purely for Manchester United has been registered many times in this forum.

I don't see any pedance anywhere TBH.

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:48

Originally posted by silverpaw
lol, I NEVER refer to Man Utd as "scum" although I've used "Manure" a few times.

You must have a short memory..

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48357&perpage=30&pagenumber=5

Silverpaw: Personally I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than go and watch Man Utd vs Arsenal at my local. Next question

Robert: so you dislike watching quality sides then

(harmless banter up to this point)

Silverpaw: If I want to watch scum I'll abstain from cleaning the toilet for a month.

:confused:

silverpaw · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:52

Originally posted by dirtydog
You must have a short memory..

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48357&perpage=30&pagenumber=5

Silverpaw: Personally I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than go and watch Man Utd vs Arsenal at my local. Next question

Robert: so you dislike watching quality sides then

(harmless banter up to this point)

Silverpaw: If I want to watch scum I'll abstain from cleaning the toilet for a month.

That's calling both Manchester United AND Arsenal scum, not referencing Manchester United with the "scum" nickname. Frankly Dirtydog if you can't see that I was joking in that passage then I don't know what to do, maybe you should add me to your ignore list if you can't decipher my comments made in jest from serious posts.

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:55

seems pretty serious to me

can i ask why i was temp banned ?

Anyways agree to disagree >i am sorry if anything said offends you.From now on i will try and use Man united .But i would like you to atleast stop refering to Man utd as scum , please.

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:56

I accept scum is a common term for Man Utd and it might not be intended to imply that all fans are scum. I still don't like it though

To me scum and hate are powerful, nasty words which I don't like hearing in reference to my team..

Anyway gotta go may continue that thought later

silverpaw · 18 Feb 2003 at 15:57

Originally posted by Robert
seems pretty serious to me

can i ask why i was temp banned ?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/member2.php?s=&action=addlist&userlist=ignore&userid=1154

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 16:00

no , i don't want to ignore you.So i guess thats an ultimatum ?

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2003 at 16:39

Originally posted by silverpaw
That's calling both Manchester United AND Arsenal scum, not referencing Manchester United with the "scum" nickname. Frankly Dirtydog if you can't see that I was joking in that passage then I don't know what to do, maybe you should add me to your ignore list if you can't decipher my comments made in jest from serious posts.

So calling Man Utd and Arsenal 'scum' isn't calling Man Utd scum..

Er.. okay

I did realise you were joking! I just didn't find it funny.

Gilly · 18 Feb 2003 at 16:47

Originally posted by dirtydog
So calling Man Utd and Arsenal 'scum' isn't calling Man Utd scum..

Er.. okay

I did realise you were joking! I just didn't find it funny.

But he wasn't inferring that Manchester United themselves directly were scum...

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 16:50

If I want to watch scum , that seems like hes refering to both arsenal AND united

dirtydog · 18 Feb 2003 at 16:54

Originally posted by Gilly
But he wasn't inferring that Manchester United themselves directly were scum...

I inferred it, he implied it (sorry couldn't resist being pedantic there :rolleyes:

)

No I realise that - I admit I did think he meant it just at Man Utd until he pointed that out. I don't see how it makes it much better though

Perhaps I am over-sensitive...

Robert · 18 Feb 2003 at 17:00

Originally posted by dirtydog
I inferred it, he implied it (sorry couldn't resist being pedantic there )

No I realise that - I admit I did think he meant it just at Man Utd until he pointed that out. I don't see how it makes it much better though

Perhaps I am over-sensitive...

no your not .Whats more i find it hard to believe Silerpaw tells me to read a thesaurus when obviously has to when referin to teams as scum