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It's quite interesting how City have tightened the purse strings on Mancini. It's almost as if they want to upset the manager, the squad, and lose the league.

I know it's good that they have, but unfortunately the damage has been done by them throwing money around like it was nobody's business over the last few years, clubs will want high fees for players.
 
You could argue a defence as capable as ours shouldn't need a midfielder to protect them

Nah you really couldn't

City's defence aint that great to begin with but even the very best need someone in front to help out, especially as modern day fullbacks spend just as much time attacking as they do defending (and a lot of them aren't great defenders either)

I agree though Dembele and Toure wouldn't really work, Dembele and Carrick would though :cool: :(
 
Whats this about Rooney and his total loss of form?

Whenever he's had any break longer than 2 days he always seems to come back a fat knacker. Also his passing seems to go completely for long periods of time. His body/mind seems to need a few weeks longer than most other players to get back up to speed.

On a positive note he's always very competitive on the pitch and won't let you down when it comes to work rate on he pitch. I think he's just one of those players who needs to be playing to stay in shape.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Sinclair is a bit crap then? :p

Not the only one, just didn't want to spoil the joke till city had signed him :p

(bit ott he's good at Swansea but not a make a difference at city sort of player, screams of buying to weaken other teams instead of strengthen your own)
 
It's quite interesting how City have tightened the purse strings on Mancini. It's almost as if they want to upset the manager, the squad, and lose the league.

I know it's good that they have, but unfortunately the damage has been done by them throwing money around like it was nobody's business over the last few years, clubs will want high fees for players.

They haven't done any damage, people have been paying 30mil for players since the late 90's, Utd have done it since the early 00's, the rest of Europe has gone well beyond 30mil for a player. Aguero at £30mil, Yaya at £24mil, those are basically cheap transfers, the only insane prices are for English players and that started long before City started spending, and Utd helped make that worse more than any other team in the league. Despite things like 80mil for Ronaldo, Dembele cost Fulham next to nothing, Tiote/Cabaye/Ba/Cisse were ridiculously cheap. Paying absurd fee's for the few has NEVER changed being able to find a deal. Bad managers like O'neill massively overpaying for average players has nothing at all to do with increasing fee's, but being a terrible manager. He could have said, you won't take 5mil, screw you, and gone and found a whole host of other strikers for sub 10mil who would be better, he chose to overpay massively for someone, he wasn't forced into it at all.

As for tightening the purse strings, they haven't. He has a squad, he has to live with the squad he's bought, if he can't sell a player, he can't buy. That is how football works, at some stage you can't have an infinite number of players and simply keep paying millions to guys who you can't even put on the squad. Mancini is throwing his toys out the pram because he's too stupid to realise this.

Real, basically the silliest spending team in history, sold a bunch of their TOP players, not just the unwanted rubbish, to fund more buying. They got rid of Robinho, VDV, Sneijder, Huntelaar, Robben and several others before they could buy Ronaldo, Kaka, Ozil, etc, etc. Mancini has sold what, 2 players, one he barely used and one he replaced long ago already. He bought Dzeko and shipped out Adebayor on loan, getting rid of Adebayor who was already replaced doesn't mean he can buy someone else.

I can't stand managers who think spending should continue with zero regard to waste, Redknapp, Mourinho, Mancini. City's owners are wasting a lot of cash and overpaying, but there is still a huge difference between giving Milner 5+mil a year when he actually players, and giving another player 5+mil a year and Mancini won't even be allowed to play him due to squad numbers.... but Mancini wants to buy that new player before the guy he's replacing has gone.

As with several managers, he doesn't want the inconvenience of all the poor buys he's made, nor the trouble selling them before getting the replacements. He's of the opinion that if he spent 100mil last year, he should be allowed to spend 100mil this year. I honestly can't stand managers with that attitude.

Despite Dzeko scoring crucial goals all season, coming on in the final game and scoring a crucial goal that helped lead to the league title... he's decided he wants rid of him and wanted RVP instead.... well boo hoo.
 
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It's quite interesting how City have tightened the purse strings on Mancini. It's almost as if they want to upset the manager, the squad, and lose the league.

I know it's good that they have, but unfortunately the damage has been done by them throwing money around like it was nobody's business over the last few years, clubs will want high fees for players.
The plan always was to slow the spending massively by this time anyway. We are actually a year ahead of where we thought we would be IIRC. A lot of people forget this.

I think our squad is fine as it is, of the players we have lost only one of them ever played and even then he was used sporadically. To go further in the CL we need some players which is what Mancini want's to do.

The anger from Mancini has stemmed from it just taking so long to sign players of any kind, marquee or just backups.

If this comes back to us selling before we can buy or the players we want just involving such a long process I don't know.
 
The plan always was to slow the spending massively by this time anyway. We are actually a year ahead of where we thought we would be IIRC. A lot of people forget this.

I think our squad is fine as it is, of the players we have lost only one of them ever played and even then he was used sporadically. To go further in the CL we need some players which is what Mancini want's to do.

The anger from Mancini has stemmed from it just taking so long to sign players of any kind, marquee or just backups.

If this comes back to us selling before we can buy or the players we want just involving such a long process I don't know.

surely you are contradicting yourself?

either your squad is fine, or you need additions/replacements to go further in the CL


Unless you are Barca / RM it appears it takes a long time to sign any players these days , the only time it doesnt is when its a youngster appearing out of nowhere and want to grow with the club from mid-late teens (childhood club where they dont want to go anywhere else).

Its a lot easier thowing £40m at a club and £200k a week at a player than needing to get some "value" in the deal.

I know he isnt going to be an automatic starter (and he isnt replacing a starter either) but I really cant see the sense of adding Sinclair to the squad, yes he is a backup, but when the backup is at a completely different level it doesnt really make that much difference imo
 
It screams of them trying to weaken... Swansea...? :confused:

Got to have a few mad conspiracy theories, one of which Mancini is actually worried he might slip up against Swansea this year when Swansea go there in October (putting pressure on his job). So the best way to get round some of their good signings is to try and take a player off them for big money at the end of the transfer window in the hope it leaves them worse off come the game....

Football is no fun if you don't imagine city as the mad player hoover-upper team that ends everyones careers for large amounts of cash to try and keep them top.
 
Julio Ceasr to QPR looks pretty certain now... christ on a bike! haha :D Nice pay day for him I guess... would hate to be Rob Green right now though! And well in general haha!
 
Am I the only one who thinks Sinclair is a bit crap then? :p

Have seen him kept quiet rather easily against us in the playoffs, that said in the league match he ran through our defence like it wasn't there.

Lansbury done! 4 year deal, very good signing.
 
There seems to be a ridiculous amount of speculation with regards to Nani leaving.

Likely a hypothetical article, but:

Manchester United duo Nani and Anderson could be Spurs targets

Tottenham's £33m sale of Luka Modric could see Andre Villas-Boas turn to United to add to the White Hart Lane stock.

Having banked the money from the Spaniards for the Croatian playmaker, who was interesting Sir Alex Ferguson this summer, Spurs are keen to bring in new faces before the transfer deadline on Friday evening.

And the Londoner’s focus could centre of Nani and Anderson.

The pair were imported from Portugal in 2007 with Portuguese winger Nani arriving from Sporting Lisbon and Brazilian midfielder Anderson coming from Porto.

Nani’s advisors have been agitating for a new Old Trafford agreement with his current deal due to expire in the summer of 2014.

Significantly, United have not bitten, even though it is believed that the 25-year-old has reduced his initial wage demands.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve...-duo-nani-and-anderson-could-be-spurs-targets

What do people make of that? Would you be happy to lose Nani/Anderson?

I don't care much for Anderson, he doesn't strike me as anything special and just doesn't seem a great player. I'd be happy to lose him if we got in Dembele, for example. There are a lot of rumours currently that we're negotiating a price with Fulham, but nothing solid on that yet. As Spurs have shown an interest in Anderson, we may agree to sell him to them as we'd effectively stop them getting Dembele - he'd favour a move to Man Utd surely.

As for Nani, I think he's easily one of our best players on his day, unfortunately he doesn't bring his 'A game' to every game, so can be frustrating to watch at times.

Young and Valencia wouldn't exactly be ineffective on the wings - though it would be annoying if one of them got injured.

I've also seen it reported that we've accepted a bid from Fiorentina for Berbatov, and it's up to him if he leaves. That would be disappointing as I'd love to see RvP and Berbatov as a strike partnership, class in abundance.
 
I wouldn't want to see Nani leave but there's several logical ways of looking at it;

With everyone fit will he get a game ahead of Valencia on the right? Probably not. If that is the case do we get the best out of him on the left? Absoloutly not. If that's the case could we be better off playing someone else out there? Possibly, we don't know how Kagawa would do playing from there, if we move to a front 3 will Rooney be playing from there?....

Then there's the situation with his contract, if we can't agree a new deal with him this is the last chance really to get anything like his true value (very few deals are done in January and then next summer he'll only have a year left)

If he goes then I'd hope we'd get a lot more than just the rumoured €25m, try €35m at the very least and it would then require bringing in someone to replace him (albeit that could probably wait till next summer)

Anderson..... He can go for a packet of Ready Salted :p
 
nani has more rubbish games than he does good games. on his day he is brilliant but when hes not he is really bad.

i would much rather see valencia on the right wing for every game.
 
Ting is, Young is much worse, and can/never will be as talented as Nani..

So why sell nani but not young?

i cant actually remember any games where i think, WOW Young was great today. Wheras you can say that for Nani.
 
The rumours of Nani to Zenit certainly are growing, could be something in that after all......

His agent (Jorge Mendes) met with Zenit representatives yesterday, apparently. They've offered a rumoured €25m, as you said. Perhaps a bit low but if it gets us Dembele, I think he'd be a more valuable player to have than Nani.
 
nani has his qualities and would suit the spurs formation but i just can't see him at spurs. i can't even remember the last time spurs had a player from united?

willian is cheaper but not pl proven and although united wont see us as a rival, i can't see nani not wanting to join a club who aren't in the cl as he obviously has a few tickets on himself. his reduced wage demands would point to him being given a reality check by someone.

i'm interested in this ''agreement'' we now have with real. today's telegraph writes that it could actually be a very shrewd move by levy. apparently, levy networked very well with the directors of real off the back of our 5-0 defeat to them. the modric interest then snowballed.

the agreement principal is touring, merchandising etc (the usual marketing) but the interesting element of it, is the loaning of real youth or newly signed players (as mourinho likes the pl and believes it to be valuable experience) but what i'm most excited about is that if AVB does prove he can cut it, he and his background staff will be given coaching techniques by real staff.

i would like AVB and mourinho to re-kindle their friendship and AVB to learn from one of the best (again) if things come to fruition, it could be a very good next 5-10 yrs for spurs, coupled with a new stadium.

or, it could have course just mean real get bale in 2 yrs time.
 
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