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Azza said:
Arsenal after Olivier Giroud... 8m Euro + Chamakh


So Arsenal are going to get rid of Chamakh and buy another striker for 8m Euro's who is effectively a French version of Chamakh... explain please?!?
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Gotta be better than Chamakh, right? Riiiiight? :o
 
Moses said:
What? I said you need to sell players (which you have to do, to cover your losses). I didn't say you specifically need to sell Modric (but you will).
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Try to learn how to read numbers as I said, without the 40mil a year amortisation (which is almost gone, if you want look up the summer/jan spending the year Redknapp arrived if you want to realise why), Spurs would make a pretty hefty profit, at no stage at all have Spurs had to sell players.

They would have made a SMALL short term loss while the player transfers from years ago run their course. Take off that 40mil(which my guess would be about 30mil will be gone in this years numbers and work out if they need to sell, answer is, no.
 
jakeke said:
More twists and turns in the Eden Hazard situation. Arsenal have now had a bid accepted according to The Times... #AFC #FootballTweet

-_- we are the club he's been waiting for

Time to lodge that £35k p/w wage offer
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I am more of a lurker than a poster in the football forum, but with a post like that I have say... Dude, what are you trying to do? Give me nocturnal emissions? lol.

Would love for us to offload majority of the deadwood and get Hazard + M'Vila and sign RVP to a 4 year contract :D
 
It is a genuine story from The Times but it won't happen.

However, I know Wenger absolutely loves him and has been tracking him for 3 or 4 years

But it won't happen

Also I know Hazard likes Arsenal

But I'm just joking it won't happen ;)
 
Sao Paulo reject £32m Chelsea offer for Lucas Moura

Chelsea have had a £32.4 million offer for Brazil midfielder Lucas Moura rejected.

Moura, 19, grabbed the attention of Europe's biggest clubs after establishing himself as one of Brazil's most promising young players.

The attacking midfielder has already won 11 caps for his country and Sao Paulo president Juvenal Juvenico has warned only an "enormous offer" will prise him away.

Juvenico claimed a bid of £20.2m from Inter Milan had also already been declined, while Real Madrid have made contact to underline the interest.

However, after Chelsea's big-money offer, Juvenico believes the newly-crowned European champions are leading the race for Moura.

"We did not accept the offer but of course Chelsea is the closest to signing Lucas," he said.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...reject-32m-Chelsea-offer-for-Lucas-Moura.html

Another player we need in the Premier League, bags and bags of promise.

This should also mean Chelsea are out of the race to sign Hazard, unless they want both! :eek:
 
Don't understand Chelsea releasing Kalou and Bosingwa, especially when the latter had an option like Berbatov to extend his contract by a year. Surely some fee is better than nothing and neither are that old.
 
On the local news about Ba situation.

Newcastle want a new contract, Ba(apparently) wants a new contract but his advisors are all demanding cash and Cashley is refusing to even speak to them :p

Frustrating if we lose Ba like this but got to have respect for Cashley and his no nonsense approach.
 
One More Solo said:
Don't understand Chelsea releasing Kalou and Bosingwa, especially when the latter had an option like Berbatov to extend his contract by a year. Surely some fee is better than nothing and neither are that old.
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What fee exactly? Bosingwa will simply be on a wage that means no one will match it, so they give him a contract at WAY above market rate for a unibrow right back.... people offer 2-3mil for him, speak with him and find out they are unwilling to match his wages and all that happens is they pay him 5mil a year for one more year, then he leaves on a free anyway.

Same goes for Kalou, he's been better, yet still almost completely useless for Chelsea, he's not particularly good, there are MUCH better players, he's on a big wage, there is no value whatsoever in keeping him.

Don't forget Chelsea make a loss of £70mil a year still, and need to trim the wage bill as much as possible, largely but getting rid of everyone they can who joined when they were handing out huge wages to everyone.

Neither player offers any value to Chelsea, are completely replaceable, and on wages no one will match.



AS for Ba, meh, it would be really great if all the managers simply met up, made a pact, every single time agents ask for some massive fee instantly say TO THE PLAYER< we'll happily pay this fee, but it means you get lower wages to make up the difference.....

You'd see players getting new representation that isn't as greedy. Why agents think they should get millions for helping their players sign on a dotted line I really don't know.
 
Moses said:
As I said, take off that amortisation and they're fine... take of the amortisation and the £37m they got from Europe and they're in the same position as now (losing money).
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Except for the fact that the amortisation is marginally bigger than the money they got from Europe and the fact that again those costs will reduce they spent the best part of 100mil in ONE season when replacing Berb/Keano, the money from that year is effecting every other year, you can see, easily a list of transfers and that even with Redknapp current spending isn't anywhere near those levels, not even close.

There's two problems, the players should(but it depends if the club were smart enough) get paid significantly less in a non CL season(that will be interesting to see) and if Spurs do the right thing they can shave 10-15mil off the wage bill just by getting rid of players they just don't use. They also loaned out more players than usual, higher wage guys like Bentley.


Either way you claimed they'd "lose a horrendous amount" losing that money, this is simply not the case, they'll be looking at(only factoring those two things alone and nothing else) a 7mil loss.... hardly horrendous.

When you factor in the depreciation of players "cost" being vastly lower also after amortisation is almost nothing, growth in media/gate receipts, player loans(though they loaned people in, that could go either way based really on exactly how much they paid of Ade's wages tbh) they could be in the black anyway.

If there is a massive wage drop when not in the CL they'll make a healthy profit, if there isn't it will rely on other things. Even so, it will be a SMALL loss, not a horrendous one(which you were implying, or seeming to imply it would be almost 40mil), and simply getting rid of Santos, Corluka, Pav, Bentley, Pienaar, Kracjar would push them into the black easily, even after buying 1-2 younger/cheaper guys as replacements.
 
No1newts said:
On the local news about Ba situation.

Newcastle want a new contract, Ba(apparently) wants a new contract but his advisors are all demanding cash and Cashley is refusing to even speak to them :p

Frustrating if we lose Ba like this but got to have respect for Cashley and his no nonsense approach.
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How long is his current contact for??

Pretty funny if Cashley holds to his principles as it sets a nice president.
 
read on the bbc webby that part of the problem with Newcastle/Ba is down to the toon refusing to renegotiate the terms of his contract to remove a £7m release clause.

don't blame them, nice deal to get him as they did, after the issues with the medical at stoke.
 
Manchester United have lodged a £13.6million bid for Borussia Dortmund attacking midfielder Shinji Kagawa

The Premier League giants have been pressed into action after being made aware last week of growing interest in the attacking midfielder from Arsenal.

Reports emerged in Germany on Thursday that United had made a move for Kagawa and sources have confirmed to Goal.com that the club have made a formal bid for the Japan international.

United are believed to be hopeful of wrapping up a quick deal but it is understood that Arsenal's interest remains strong and the Londoners could also submit an offer for a key figure in Dortmund's back-to-back league titles.

Kagawa has only a year remaining on his contract and the Bundesliga club have hinted recently that they will not stand in the way of a transfer this summer.

Speaking last week, Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc said: "I had a meeting with his agent and Shinji Kagawa has informed us that he will definitely not be extending his contract. Should we now receive offers for Kagawa, then we will consider and negotiate them."
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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...hester-united-lodge-136million-bid-for-kagawa

Apparently it has been rejected, but I'm sure we can raise it a bit. :)
 
pingwing said:
How long is his current contact for??

Pretty funny if Cashley holds to his principles as it sets a nice president.
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About 3 or 4 years I think but it has a 7mill release clause and it pays averagely.

Toon want rid of release clause he wants more money and both are willing to give its just the agents in the middle causing the bother :p
 
drunkenmaster said:
and simply getting rid of Santos, Corluka, Pav, Bentley, Pienaar, Kracjar would push them into the black easily, even after buying 1-2 younger/cheaper guys as replacements.
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pav has gone, the others you mention will follow this summer, along with jenas i should think.

moses, you're either winding me up or getting confused. you called us a feeder club, i then say why didn't we sell modric and you say you never said we had to. you say we sell players to cover our losses, again, not specifically the case, we do buy players with cash revenue (didn't buy enough last season) we're not a feeder club, we sell players who are surplus to requirements, pav, crouch, hutton, palacios etc just like every other club does. we haven't sold a big name since berbatov.

we didn't sell modric because he's one of our best and highly needed. however, after another year without cl, a hefty wage and a sub par season, i feel we'd be silly to turn down an offer for him, if the right offer comes in. if we needed to cover our losses, we'd have sold him.

lewis runs a tight ship, levy is extremely shrewd. we're a very solvent club. if we can set up a new stadium along a similar business plan as arsenal, we'll have some serious financial clout.

sorry to dissapoint you and your tottenham hatred.
 
Moses said:
I don't hate Tottenham - I just think the blinkered view of Tottenham fans is hilarious.

You don't have to, in any given moment... but you will sell Modric, and probably will sell Bale. You best players leave, it's just what happens.

A tight ship, that's leaking :o. So you want to mimic Arsenal, and what they did with the Emirates? Doesn't that rely on you qualifying for the Champions League, every year? Not going to happen :o.
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you're hilarious. really. do you even support arsenal? it's the only reason i can think of for your bizarre attitude. i don't know how many times the error of your ways needs pointing out to you but you're now coming across as nothing but obtuse and bitter.

spurs have a billionaire owner and season ticket waiting list of over 20,000. the only thing we don't have, is the land to build the stadium on. we don't need consistent cl football to do this, we've had cl football once in pl history.
 
Robbo said:
Don't you mean precedent? :D :p
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Hahahaha! Auto-correct strikes back when I'm least awake! :D

No1newts said:
About 3 or 4 years I think but it has a 7mill release clause and it pays averagely.

Toon want rid of release clause he wants more money and both are willing to give its just the agents in the middle causing the bother :p
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Ahhhhh! Fair play would be worth getting rid of the release clause and the excessive agents/advisers in one swoop!
 
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