** ALL NEW (WITH RULES) Summer Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings **

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they were all for getting their pants pulled down a fortnight ago

seeing as Utd refused to deal with Nasri's agrent last season because of the fee he wanted, it wouldnt be surprised if this was the sticking point again

big difference to Torroes (at Liverpool) moving between EPL clubs for huge fee / wages , to a youngster untested in the EPL (however talented he looks like in Ligue 1) getting nigh on £10m /year in wages (before tax) with his 1st move to a "big" club

(Admittedly chelsea couldnt have pridicted how dire Torres' form would dip moving between clubs, but thats beside the point)
 
Interview with Hazards team mates al Lille talking about his move to england . The last one actually says chelsea.

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16426_7785225,00.html


And this

http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/MG_sportnieuws/MG_voetbal/1.1313570



National coach about being late for training: 'He made a mistake, he needs to buy the champagne tonight. For the whole team. He made a mistake, okay, he needs to give back to the team. Kompany will choose the champagne'.
- Hazard said: 'Je parle pas' -> 'I don't talk'.
- Hazard will talk after England - Belgium and first on Chelsea TV.
- National coach: 'After Wembley, he'll go to London, do his medical and after that there will be a press conference.'
- National coach again: 'I don't have a problem with Hazard twittering. He promised to announce which club, he did. No problem.'
 
More Kagawa information, it's looking pretty likely now.

Manchester United prepare bumper contract offer for Kagawa

The Old Trafford club are reportedly close to agreeing a £17.6m deal and will offer the Japanese midfielder a lucrative image rights package to meet his £100,000-a-week wages

Manchester United have stepped up their interest in Borussia Dortmund star Shinji Kagawa after missing out on Eden Hazard and are preparing a lucrative contract offer to secure the midfielder's signature.

The two clubs are understood to be in advanced talks over a deal for the Japanese midfielder, with reports in Germany suggesting United have made an improved offer worth up to £17.6 million (€22m) including add-ons following an initial £13.6m bid lodged last week.

According to reports in Germany, Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke has said that “both sides want to conclude the deal” while sporting director Michael Zorc told Kicker “the transfer is not done yet.”

Goal.com understands the main stumbling block is now Kagawa’s £100,000-a-week wage demands but United are confident of agreeing a deal by offering a lucrative commercial agreement, on top of a sizeable basic salary, that will see the 23-year-old earn money from image rights linked to Far East earnings.

Kagawa recently admitted to meeting with United manager Sir Alex Ferguson over a move and is certain to leave the German champions this summer as he has just one year remaining on his contract.

The Bundesliga outfit are resigned to losing the midfielder, and their CEO has confirmed that a move is close, telling Derwesten: "Both sides want to conclude the deal."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ited-prepare-bumper-contract-offer-for-kagawa

Guardian too: www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/29/shinji-kagawa-manchester-united-dortmund
 
Well, it's reportedly just under £9m/year, so nigh on £9m would be a better figure to say, but hey-ho! Does that mean we can boost any reported wages of Manyoo players by ~11%, when it suits us (read: when we want to be critical of Manyoo)?

I think Baz said £9.4m, so you are really whinging about £600k/year when that kind of money is being discussed :o- which if you want to be pedantic is actually about 6% rather than 11%:rolleyes:
 
Call me a cynic but 24 hours after losing out on Hazard the Kagawa deal starts moving forward after days of nothing..... sounds like we know who was first choice and who was the backup :(

Errr you sound surprised? Everyone knew City and Utd wanted Hazard, and he even said he was going to a Manchester club, before Chelsea came in with the £££, that's nothing new.
 
Errr you sound surprised?

I sound surprised about what? Kagawa potentially being second choice? No I'm not surprised at all, doesn't mean I dont feel bad for him though. If I were him I'd tell us where to go and sign for Arsenal out of principle.
 
I was going off the Telegraph article he was talking about, which said just under £9m (170k*52 = 8.84m)... so I think he misread it, or certainly read it differently to me. I then gave the percentage difference between the £9m figure they mentioned, and the £10m you did.

I didn't misread. I went off the £4.6m net figure which would mean Chelsea would have to pay him £9.4m.

The Telegraph's figures don't add up anyway. Even at £8.8m per year, the total value of the deal comes in at £85m, not the £78m that they claim.
 
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I was going off the Telegraph article he was talking about, which said just under £9m (170k*52 = 8.84m)... so I think he misread it, or certainly read it differently to me. I then gave the percentage difference between the £9m figure they mentioned, and the £10m you did.

Why dont you just admit you were nitpicking and be done with it?

I sound surprised about what? Kagawa potentially being second choice? No I'm not surprised at all, doesn't mean I dont feel bad for him though. If I were him I'd tell us where to go and sign for Arsenal out of principle.

And therefore likely as not , not win anything for a while?:eek:

I think you are being a little cynical - no reason at all Utd couldnt have assimilated both players into the team over the summer (especially as the initial transfer fee appears to be so low for Kagawa)

At this point of the summer (before the window has even opened) its not THAT surprising no one from both clubs in the right positions to negotiate were in over the weekend)

Remember its not just Gill and his oposite number - !advanced talks surely isnt indicating justa new offer faxed over after all? Its several people in a conferance call / face to face from both sides
 
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I hope this lad lives up to his hype, he looks like just the sort of player we need. Someone explosive who can run at defenders and not then fall over the ball, like Kalou.
As for his wages, it's all make believe at the moment (player's salaries rarely get accurately reported anyway) but as far as I'm aware he had agreed personal terms with Chelsea, Man. City & Man. U. so they were all prepared to pay him what he wanted so there's no point in any City/Utd fans whinging that he (apparently) chose Chelsea over them in that respect. Chelsea have just got rid of a massive earner in Drogba and I'm sure Kalou, Bosingwa & Malouda (hopefully) will follow and we don't need anyone else in those positions so we might in fact reduce our wage bill with him on the books.
I've heard people say his choice is a strange one, it's not really as Chelsea can offer everything any club in England can at least on par plus he'll get more game time with us than at City that's for sure.
It's still only conjecture though until his signing is formal, he does seem a bit of a ho & it's quite funny how much more of a ho he is now he seems to have elbowed a suitor or 2 ;)
 
hope we do get kagawa,he looks like a good player from clips i have seen on youtube and after watching German cup final.Will be interesting to see who else we buy as well,wouldn't mind baines and wolfswinkel at united aswell
 
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